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I have the American Standard of Perfection but I have not read all of it, I may be able to find the answer there. Thank you for all of the information and ideas, I appreciate it.

I was talking about breeding both genders to have small combs, earlobes, and wattles, not only the males as that would be impossible. Sorry for any confusion I caused. That is what I was thinking! Do the judges even ask if the male has been dubbed and cropped?

It is not impossible if breeders took their time to make it possible, but unfortunately they wish to not. To say it is impossible would be to say that no chicken could have a small comb and small wattles, which do indeed exist. If it was impossible then my Easter Eggers would not have such flat...

Really? I must have passed that up the standard. Unless that is only a thing for other countries.

I totally agree. The reason they act like they do not care is because gamefowl are bred to be so friendly and calm towards humans.

Seramas are so cute, I love them! But apparently only white Seramas are accepted currently, if my American Standard of Perfection is right.

I know the history of dubbing and cropping. I don't see the point in carrying down the tradition of fighting, especially when it is illegal, but I am not looking to argue here. I don't understand why no one else has thought about simply breeding them to have small, flat combs. It is not...

Thank you. I just have a liking for gamefowl.

They don't? That is good! What about Modern Game?

I wish rules could change and instead of dubbing and cropping, the standards for gamefowl breeds would be switched to them having to possess small combs, wattles and earlobes that fit the size of what a dubbed and cropped bird would have, but have it all be natural. That way no dubbing and...

Removing body parts for no good reason is abuse, but I am not going into that.

How horrible.

I would love to show, and even though I would most likely not have the space or time for breeding chickens, I want to ask a question. Is it required to crop and dub gamefowl in 4-H as it is with other chicken shows? If I ever showed, I would want to show gamefowl because I love them and they are...