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  1. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Certainly.
  2. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    I give up. If you wish to spray your birds with unnecessarily high levels of teratogenic compounds, that’s your business. It‘s just unfortunate that you are recommending it to others. If .10 concentration will do, then .50 must be better. Personally, if I ever have a case of ..something that...
  3. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Many people use Pyrethrin and Pyrethrin derivatives indiscriminately because “they’re made from flowers,” not realizing the seriousness and potential toxicity. Bioaccumulation and or random exposure can have teratogenic effects.These chemicals also aren’t just something you use to solve a...
  4. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    The bottle that was originally posted was at a higher concentration than necessary, and it wasn’t meant for dilution, it was in a ready to use spray bottle, just for clarification. No argument on the necessity for adequate remedies, and also, no other mention was made about attempting to limit...
  5. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Well, I only took through intermediate calculus, so, keep the differentials simple or I won’t get it..wink..
  6. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

  7. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    To cover the areas needed, do you spray 1/5th of the chicken? You still need to spray what needs to be sprayed, why not use a lower concentration if it’s the recommended amount?
  8. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    I’m not arguing at all the effectiveness or use when needed of the pyrethrin derived compounds, just arguing for the minimal use and minimal effective dosage. Just because a concentration is tolerated by a horse and won’t kill the Chicken doesn’t mean that’s the best product for the chicken...
  9. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Really? And you’re the one who posted a spray for horses at five times the recommended concentration? For “Horse and Stable”? Yes..Chicken is on the label..but do you really want to hose down your poultry with five times the necessary chemicals? That’s what this all started with..a simple...
  10. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    There is a tendency to solve problems with chemicals. There are underlying reasons birds get lice. Those issues should be addressed or at least identified as well, or all the remedies won’t help, or rather, you’ll be leaning on them frequently. Hygiene, proximity/contact/shared water or feed...
  11. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

  12. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    I’m happy to delete out of date information, but when I see a product that has five times the necessary chemical dosage which is primarily marketed for horses then it’s necessary to say this is not the ideal product for chickens. There was nothing “wrong” on any post I’ve ever made. Out of date...
  13. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    https://www.cacklehatchery.com/how-do-chickens-get-lice/ They have a recommendation or at least a “plug” for this from Gail Damerow, author of many books on chickens and their health. As I understand it, potassium sorbate interferes with the bugs’ reproduction. It won’t “kill them dead”.. It...
  14. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Yes..this is the problem with finding older material..sorry..I deleted one full of old stuff..the reason I said the original post was a stronger concentration than necessary is that it’s in a ready to use spray bottle..not to be diluted, that was my only point. I’m sure it would work, but why...
  15. Katanahamon

    Is This Lice?

    Perhaps, but, this is from the manufacturer. I’m still researching, but, of the ones that do recommend using it, they say 10%.. edit from https://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3801&Itemid=4168 RECOMMENDED DOSE Large animals (Beef & Dairy Cattle, Horses, Sheep...
  16. Katanahamon

    Ibuprofen for Controlling Pain in Poultry ?

    You can limit her light to 8 hours to discourage laying if you want..in cases of prolapse it’s recommended for healing, but applies for some other stuff too..
  17. Katanahamon

    Ibuprofen for Controlling Pain in Poultry ?

    Nope..you’re trusted..I like to scan for recent studies about stuff too, I learned how with my own health, 6+ major sinus surgeries and three neck sets of hardware, I got plenty of practice..I’ll keep the aspirin info for files, see if I can get a vet to give me a scrip for meloxicam for the...
  18. Katanahamon

    Ibuprofen for Controlling Pain in Poultry ?

    Here’s the study referenced as footnote 12 https://www.scitechnol.com/peer-review/differences-in-nsaid-toxicity-infour-avian-species-roJO.php?article_id=4810 Abstract Veterinary treatment of livestock with diclofenac, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID), has caused catastrophic...
  19. Katanahamon

    Ibuprofen for Controlling Pain in Poultry ?

    This was a 2005 study..right? Aspirin may be a better bet, but studies on poultry pain and NSAIDS are few, here’s a blurb conclusion of one study of aspirin vs diclofenac (yes..not ibuprofen, but ibuprofen is also a known kidney damager..) here’s a 2015-16 study...
  20. Katanahamon

    Ibuprofen for Controlling Pain in Poultry ?

    Still comes up w a subscription page..
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