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Nothing but fodder?

I have to disagree that a hens 2nd year is its best laying year. The 1st laying cycle is the most productive and the feed conversion in that first cycle is the most efficient. After that. feed conversion efficiency falls because energy is used for moulting and feather replacement. The birds also...

Totally good. Just need to think about the type of fish meal, as in where are the fish from and what is it preserved with? Or maybe synthetic preserves are not a concern for you. Catfish preserved with ethoxyqquin for example would be a no-go in my book. Fast growing, cold water, sea-going fish...

8x8 is big enough for 30 cornish. We do 80 to 90 in a 10x12. It MUST get moved daily though like goldfinches said. A bigger pen would be NICER, but not essential provided that it moves daily. These birds were bred to eat, poop, and grow large fast. You have to ask yourself the question: are you...

What was your fermented results compared to your normal dry feeding results on the CX?

Wow. That seems like a substantial feed use decrease. So assuming 50lb bags, you went from using 200 lbs/ week to better than 250 lbs in two weeks!? So you basically cut feed use in half (on a weekly basis)?

So are you saying that the water/ferment juice is what is making the feed stretch further through the week? You have reduced weekly feed by 100 lbs or you now use 100 lbs per week?

Yeah, the feed mill is not that close. But, we want all organic feed and our guy does a great job. He makes a non-soy blend for us too. We buy a ton at a time and have it shipped to us on a common carrier freight truck. Shipping runs about $125 per delivery. Adds about $3-4 per 80lb bag of feed.

So, I haven't kept up with this thread in a couple of months. So, of course it has about doubled in length! Basically, without spending the next 3 days reading through, has anyone come up with solid numbers or data for just how much weight FF feed is replacing your dry feed. I know there was a...

You could do the same grow-out and get the same weights with the cornish of you fed them less (the feeding schedule you are currently using for your MGs)

For any newbie that watched her video, her scalding time was VERY short. The feathers come off way easier if you scald longer than she did. She's right that you don't want to cook the bird and you do want to keep the bird moving by dunking or stirring, but a good 30-35 seconds at 145-150 degrees...

Please tell me you are still doing a side-by-side comparison?

Panorama Organics. Its in Oley PA. Type that in here on BYC search bar for info.

Geeze Louise. Politics, Religion, and GMO vs Organic. Always Riles people up...

Cut the head clean off with the sharpest knife I have. Simple, quick, and no, the meat isn't tough from "chemical releases" and no the bleed out is not slower.

That's not the point. Trust me, I'm not defending GMOs. I use organic feed. The question was that she heard that GMO varieties cannot be grown again if you save seed. That is not inherent to GMO hybrids was my point. It goes for any hybrid. Of course the seeds will grow, but they will not come...

So I have a chest freezer PACKED FULL of hearts, necks, and livers. Plus we still have another 200 birds to go before our season is over. We will have done about 2,000 birds this year. We raise CX on pasture and they are fed a soy-free organic feed. We do all our processing on farm, and have...

That goes for any hybrid plant. Not just ones that are GMO'd on a molecular DNA level.

I ferment my mix and it has fish meal, crab meal, kelp meal, and seashell flower (which is really a dried an ground krill type creature). We have had no problems and been fermenting for over 3 weeks now. My mix also has cracked corn, field peas, wheat, and flax meal. It smells a little stinky...

Thank you so much for tracking this. I wanted to do a quantifiable side by side with dry feed to see if there was a savings, but I did not want to be harvesting birds in November. Some have surmised a 50% feed savings, but I would need to verify what % could be reduced before I come up with the...