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  1. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    Science doesn't seem to predict big earthquakes or volcanic erruptions very well either, and those seem to happen even more often than world wars.
  2. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    Do you have a different word for people who look like preppers or survivalists but DO have sensible reasons for their behavior? For example: I grew up in a place where it was common to get heavy snow in the winter, that could block roads and knock down trees and power lines. This was before the...
  3. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    Some feed has been tested. These threads have some results: https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/feed-tests-more-results.1565804/ https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/current-social-media-chicken-feed-craze-posted-testing-results.1564737/ Summary: nothing obviously wrong with any of...
  4. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    He does say (including in one of the bits I quoted) that some commercial mills test the ingredients. For people who cannot test the ingredients, the obvious workaround is to just work with the worst numbers for each ingredient. Use the lowest number for things like protein, and the highest...
  5. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    I noticed that @U_Stormcrow keeps mentioning that ingredients do not always have the same nutrient levels. For example:
  6. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    Are you using a talk-to-text feature? I see the words "comma" and "period" several times in places that I would expect to see the actual punctuation marks. (This question has nothing to do with the overall topic, just curiosity.)
  7. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    When you put it that specifically, I have no disagreement. But some people are not able to mix such a feed (lack of knowledge or lack of ingredients.) And even for those who can do it, sometimes the home-mixed feed will cost more than purchased feed. That is a bigger issue for some people than...
  8. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    That "always superior" is nonsense. Nothing is ALWAYS better. If I make cookies, I know exactly what is in there. But that does not mean my cookies are a healthy complete diet for a person or a chicken. And if there is a shortage of flour or sugar, I cannot make my cookies either. Likewise...
  9. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    Actually, if you are talking about the first post in the thread, they did NOT have a feed that "kept their hens laying." The original poster had hens that quit laying, and later resumed laying after a feed change. Their hens stopped laying much earlier than is normal for molting, remained...
  10. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    True, winter did not start in June. However, some hens do start molting in June. Some others wait until January. If your hens are all the same age and breed, they are more likely to all molt at the same time. If you have different breeds it is more likely that some will molt at different times...
  11. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    At risk of stating the obvious, companies put lots of things in the feed. Just read the ingredients label: they put in corn, and soybean meal, and salt, and calcium, and many other things that provide nutrients needed by chickens. There might be ingredients that could be added to feed to make...
  12. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    I agree with most of your points, but I think this poster does have one thing VERY different than most of the other accounts: these chickens showed other signs of ill-health, not just a lack of eggs. (These ones also started laying a reasonable length of time after the feed change, not the...
  13. NatJ

    Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

    That theory doesn't fit most of the observed facts very well. It is normal for hens to stop laying in the fall to molt, then not resume laying until the day get longer in late winter/early spring. The older the hens, the longer the break. Weather and general stress can also cause hens to quit...
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