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my only problem with DE besides respiratory issue, is when it gets wet its ineffective, these worms live in the crop and esophogus - so regular fecals from now on nasty critters http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2649&Itemid=2938

haven't posted in awhile, but i have had 2 miracles, and a hard lesson learned- a bout with thread worm- the dang worm invisible in poop, will kill a bird if there is a bad infestation- in the last year was given 3 pairs from a friend downsizing- i should have realized something wasn't quite...

i say give them 5 days extra, i have had slow pokes hatch.. :)

Welcome to the serama world! I keep mine inside in a guineapig cage- they were bred to be pets and crave human companionship- they also don't do well in extreme temps so inside is the way i treat mine- would love to see pics!

the new birds you posted on fb i think... the tiny one?

i know- been there- you could use it to be an example of how NOT to treat others new to a breed- love those birds you have - you have beautiful birds- the will never be a 'perfect' serama- its a goal- so you work with them- you have put your heart into them- try not to let their harsh attitude...

@nikki1496 one of the friendliest groups is here - link- some are shown some aren't but they can be great encouragers! Showing should be fun, some of the breeders i've seen forget that....:) https://www.facebook.com/groups/weloveserama/?ref=bookmarks

that isn't necessarily true, i have been told by breeders to use the birds you have, then you buy higher quality birds and breed them to upgrade the offspring- remember too, breeders are opinionated...LOL! And some breeders culls are leagues ahead of pet quality

are you on facebook? here is a group to help train for tableop- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1592695310968341/

some breeders are breeding for feathered feet- this is bootsy

be warned! they are incredibly addicting!

i keep mine inside- besides the temps, i m paranoid of predators!

i do have crowing hens:) and a hen i swore was a roo till she started laying- :)

x2 none of my seramas are kept outside- my personal preference- but especially silkieds and frizzles would be at risk with weather changes- and they are a meal just begging to be taken