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Yep they can an do.

I have never been able to cause shrink wrap before external pip in my climate.

The only way I know that water collects in the air cell if the humidity is close to 100%. As the incubator warms an cools as it cycles on an off condensation happens on the cooling legs of the cycle. Over time that condensation can collect in places. The air sack is one of those places. So that...

water should never bee in the aircell before pip but of ts to small the chick will drown in the water in the egg.

Yep, I keep a spray bottle in the incubator all the time. Even with that its still better to not open more than I have to.

I disagree. I have a sportsman clone an opening the incubator at hatch time has a big effect. No less than the foam incubators.

Quote: WHEN can a chick become shrink wrapped? Is it after the internal pip but before external pip? It can happen slowly anytime but can happen very fast after external pip. When a chick never breaks into the air sack, is that considered a quitter? Yes. It is sometimes called drowning which...

Drowning is just that. So much moisture still the egg that the chick can not get air an sucks in water.

Quote: Not sure if extra heat would do it... Its a low humidity or high ventilation issue.

Weather he would have hatched on his own is hard to say but after 24 hours I would have probably did the same thing. If you had no other pips then the humidity drop would not hurt anything.

I just use the terms wet stuck/sticky an dry stuck/shrink-wraped.

The problem is that all these terms are just slang terms that dont always mean the same thing to everyone. Its also hard to tell one hatch issue from another. Drowning is a term used all the time when there is no way to actually know if the chick was just wet stuck an did not hatch or actually...

Quote: I assume this is because you are in Phoenix, AZ. In more humid places it takes real work to shrink wrap a chick before pip. It can happen very fast after though. They can also get to dry an sticky but not actual shrink wrap. But I think the op was talking about wet sticky. When your...