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Same. I miss his posts.

I'm pretty sure that most people using that term for what they are doing are really only referring to not adding extra humidity. I've never heard of anyone puposefully making the humidity close to zero. For instance, I have "dry incubated" before but that only meant I added no extra water...

JAM was talking about breeding to the standard and how important it is to do so. I suppose talking about the actual book and it's availability/etc isn't technically off topic but it does deviate from what attracted me to subscribe to this thread to begin with. I've gained a lot of knowledge...

I have been VERY interested in this thread. I'm saddened that you stopped, Mr. Miller. As for the physical SOP and what it contains, isn't that a bit off topic?

So sorry but.... :lau :lau !!

There is an excellent video that shows the hen part also at

:welcome My chicken's poo IS cute! :gig Just kidding, but Welcome to BYC!

yep, that's where I got my 1993 version. I had forgotten where until you mentioned the name here. Old age disease I guess.

If you keep looking eventually you'll find an SOP at a reasonable price. I'm familiar with the offerings on Ebay and they are just way too much for the most part. I am not paying $40 or more for a 70 year old book when the new version is $60. The APA jealously guards it's SOP as a fundraiser...

Just a suggestion for those who cannot afford the Standard of Perfection. Look online and seek out old copies. I finally found a 1993 Standard with color plates for around $20 including shipping so now I am the proud owner of an older copy but I'm positive my breed of choice and most of the rest...