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You don't remember correctly. I would hope the "President" of a so-called breed club would at least be familiar with how the breed was accepted. I suggest you go back and look at the information I originally provided you on the history of the breed. I don't recall ever hearing or seeing...

I think all one would have to do is read the Welsummers thread on here or the Facebook page and see that is certainly NOT the case.

I'm way behind again as this thread is moving FAST. Perhaps I will find this already addressed but to quick points before I move on and don't remember to address them if they haven't been. One, the important thing to remember about leg color is NOT that it lightens up with age, or can be...

Those birds are still too young to tell anything for sure yet. Wellies are great about maintaining a "teenager" look - just immature looking - and then all of a sudden within 2-3 weeks will change dramatically and really start taking on a much more mature look to them. This really became...

I am not an Orpington breeder so I don't really have a dog in this hunt but I do have a question. I agree that the bird in the forefront of the bottom pic has outstanding color. But the Type seems to be completely different than the three in the top pic. I have noticed a trend in the last...

I'd like to hear from others on this. I have often seen and heard this but I have one Buckeye hen and one Welsummer hen that haven't seemed to have lost any leg color at all and they're both good layers. I first noticed this last year and have been eyeing them since. So I'm really wondering...

I had to go back and look. Now let me see if I can remember correctly! I'd say Johnny's looks comparatively close to the one I posted - a little long. Clyde's see to be just about right and Hank's a little short. But again, it is often hard, to impossible, to determine these things from a...

Hi. I agree with you but I think it may have a lot to do with the pictures too. Before I comment too much on this bird, I'd like to hear the feedback from the two judges and others but I will say that I would like to see a little shorter legs and definitely a little bigger round. God Bless...

Well, I've looked and I have NO idea where they may have gone but I can't find the pics of my Buckeyes from the 2011 Winter show. So, I'm having to go from memory (which is NOT the best) but here is a pic of a cockerel that I think is last year's son from the cockerel I mentioned: I took...

Walt, and whoever the other person was that mentioned it, I had intended to post a pic of that Buckeye cockerel with the "too long" sickles but forgot about it before I left my desktop today. I'll try to remember tomorrow. God Bless

The problem with posts made on threads like this or others is that people can completely misconstrue and misread "how one says it". And if one is gonna accuse someone of bullying or flaming, either it better be so clear that there is no chance of being wrong and nobody else would disagree with...

Ditto. Well said!! I can't count the number of times I've seen someone post a really poor looking specimen of a breed and ask, "What do you think of my (fill in the blank)?" And the response is exactly as Janet stated. Personally, I think that is an injustice to the breed and to the person...

Walt, when looking at the various pics of Laura's and Chris' cocks/cockerels, could you address the issue of the sickles a bit? The SOP calls for "medium in length, nicely curved". Specifically, could you let us know what would be considered too short or too long and how to determine that...