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Those are good points to consider, still, it's a grand thing to win Champion of the Show. (I bet Nettie would be proud) I hope we'll see Joe competing with him again at larger venues.

Maybe because when you have alot of birds to choose from, you can afford to be pickier? That's how it works for me. For example, it might take as long as five months to make my final selection, but out of almost 70 cockerels last year, I kept only one to breed from.

Do you mean males or females? I go through approx. 50 to 75 birds when selecting a male, about half that many looking for females.

Also without looking at the standard, I would add those Dominiques.

I'm supposed to drive out o town today, so no time for photos, but the slate bar in the underfluff is something Mrs Metcalf noted wild birds have and she believed produced a better red. (MOL in the same way you should use gray primer when you're going to paint a wall red) But it's not a...

'Scuse me, but that would be Mrs. Nettie Metcalf, and that's all I'll say about the Buckeye. Now I'm going to sit back and let the breed experts take over.

What a cool thing that Delawares can get a complete "Do-Over".

I must have missed something. Kathyinmo, I was under the impression you started with less than ideal Delawares and added the crossbreeds to improve the strain, or is he saying this breed can be completely recreated from scratch by judicious crossbreeding? Also, I'm curious about the "good for 20...

Why don't you just ask them?

The story as I have heard it was that when the first colored standard was being put together, one artist was selected to do all the breeds. When that artist was working on the Dominique, changes to the paintings were requested by the DCA but rejected by the artist, and in the end, that person...

The Dominique breeders were perfectly happy with the Shilling for 75 years. They were changed not because suddenly Dominiques resembled a child's coloring book drawing, but because the decision was made to print a color version of the SoP and a single artist was selected to paint all the breeds...

Quote: Actually, nothing in either photo looks overexposed, and if the lighting was poor in the picture of the pullet, it would mean she was actually lighter, not darker. It seems like you're trying to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The thing we don't want to forget about the...

Thank you Chris, that's even better; now look at that male, is he dark? No. And his consort, would anyone describe her as being dark? Why, no. The reason Dominique fanciers still use the Schilling illustration is that it gives us an ideal bird to strive for. Those old breeders *knew* their...

Sure, let's look at those original, real live birds: The thing I notice is that besides being nicely matched in shade, they are Jedi Dominiques; that is to say medium to light, not leaning toward the dark side.

Chris, white sports in Dominiques predate Henderson's single use of a white game hen. That's because a sport doesn't have to be the result of an outcross, and it's not like a dimmer switch on a light, with the birds getting paler and lighter until you can't see the barring anymore until voila'...

You are absolutely right, it isn't listed specifically in the standard. Still, that's the way I would describe the appearance of the ideal markings on a Dominique. You aren't going to get that, but to me, anything less than 50/50 in either sex can't help but look a bit smutty and dark, even if...

What she means by '"dark" is that there isn't enough difference between the width of the light and dark bars. Ideally, BPR should be as close to 50/50 light to dark as possible. Dominique would be more like 66/33, with the light areas twice the width as the dark.

What a positive difference! From the pictures, I'd say you're doing a great job "building the barn". You and Rhonda have really developed an eye for the breed. How did that last cockerel's tail grow out. (And if he ended up going to Japan, I don't want to know.)

I don't know how other breeders select, but if I'm going to use a light colored male over dark females, what I'm looking for is overall the dark bars being a lighter shade, not really patches of pale or white. A male that from a distance appears baby blue, (noticeably lighter than the other...

That "crown of thorns" type comb doesn't make the cut here either. The comb that you posted the close up of I would describe as puckered, rather than textured.