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  1. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Yes, I'm planning on hardware-cloth-ing each panel individually so we can move them as needed. And using a separate piece for those removable panels in case we someday want to attach a coop. All gaps between panels will be covered as well of course. I want zero gaps because black snakes are a...
  2. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Run Update: I actually ended up getting a larger budget approval from my partner, so I'm going with kennel panels! :wee (Note: ignore all the extra accessories in the stock photo for the roof kit above.) I bought two 5x10 Tractor Supply Retriever kennels and two 10x10 roof kits, which will...
  3. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    What a great setup, thanks for sharing! I'd be very happy to have such a setup. Those 83% light panels really do keep things nice and bright, I'll have to keep that in mind. Indeed, those rats were a total nightmare. I love rats as pets or out in the wild...but they poop and pee SO MUCH. So...
  4. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Those are some industrious rats! Good to know that an apron may not be as effective as buried HC. Although I also know from experience that putting pavers on top of the HC actually reduces the effective range of the HC by a foot, so you'd need 3-4' of HC skirt instead of 2-3'. Rats...
  5. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Neat, do you have a coop/run thread? I can't find it on your profile but I probably just didn't look back far enough. I believe the idea is to help them differentiate between what they poop on and scratch around in, vs. what they lay in and don't disturb too much. (I've never tested the theory...
  6. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Using J-clips on hardware cloth is such a good idea that it almost seems obvious in hindsight. Thanks! And your setup is also very clever, turning 2 10x20s into a 30x20. Good to know that yours seems to be handling extra weight with no issues. I do plan on wrapping the whole thing (anything...
  7. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    That's a great point, thanks! I'll look around at some used or on-sale coops and playhouses to see what's out there. I'm also going to contact the zoning office next week to double-check that my reading of the ordinance is correct, that the coop is the only thing with a setback requirement and...
  8. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    I've been reading a ton of reviews of these kits, and I'm leaning towards the peaked roof style like yours. It definitely looks like bracing will be needed, especially along the ridge pole. For the version that is 2 sections long, I saw that someone used a vertical chain-link fence pole with the...
  9. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    Hi Victoria, thanks for stopping by! And thanks for the great write-up of your design process, it's been a huge help. And I do apologize for my huge walls of text, haha! I'm using the term "open air" to mean that it has an open front and partial openness on the sides (except when covered for...
  10. breegull

    How to convert metal frame run to open-air coop?

    The Plan I'd like to turn one of those crappy metal frame chicken runs into a fully predator-proof open-air coop. This "Vevor" brand run seems like a promising starting point. (Link to their web store, but it is also sold on Amazon). Please let me know your thoughts and suggestions for how to...
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