The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

3rd Time Reading through this tread in the last 2 years. All I can say is Bob was right regardless of the whys and what fors. There’s a hell of a lot of Here Today Gone Tomorrow “Breeders” Don’t get me wrong I see a few still breeding and showing, But then I see people that got started with very good birds and “breed” or propagated for many years and out cross every year when they had all the tools right infront of them with the right birds and people willing and able to mentor them and they just didn’t get any good birds except for the 1st breeding then didn’t follow along with true line breeding. It’s a shame
 
But then I see people that got started with very good birds and “breed” or propagated for many years and out cross every year when they had all the tools right in front of them with the right birds and people willing and able to mentor them and they just didn’t get any good birds except for the 1st breeding then didn’t follow along with true line breeding. It’s a shame
A well-known Leghorn breeder and poultry judge, Mr.Richard Holmes, used to tell a story about a master breeder of White Leghorns who in his early years hired an older poultry judge to come and cull his flock. The old judge locked himself in the poultry house and started catching and killing Leghorns. The story goes that the discards came fast and heavy. When the judge was finished the breeder had only one trio left out of 150 birds. The breeder later commented that from that day forward he made progress!

-quote from The Livestock Conservancy
 
Cull hard obviously is the moral of the story. It’s true though. I definitely won’t be hatching chicks. I might put an order in kids want a few Sultans again, out of the breeds they were super friendly, but my gosh predator attractors… they will have to be penned every Top Hat gets killed, just lost a Polish we had to a predator. Of course having every coop crushed in last big storm doesn’t help, in the middle of clean up and rebuild, while working and doing a ton of other things. We have one pen rebuilt, now just getting the hens used to going in and out for food on their own. We put roosts in it. I would prefer not to have to hunt down each hen but rather trick them into all going in an shutting the door.

I wish Cackle carried SOPish (Rosecomb) RIW. Thinking of ordering the SQ RIR from them along with a few Sultans.
 
Thanks Bob for the kind words.

I just took a few shots of my Underwood's. They were 20 weeks old last Saturday. Seems that this RC boy is going to have a pretty nice looking RC. I just love the color on these birds and the size of these pullets is super. These are the birds that I hatched from eggs from Jim Heinz. My chicks directly from Gary are just 7 weeks old.










This little bantam girl decided she wanted to be a momma so I let her set on her eggs but she only hatched out 1 little one Easter Sunday. lol Too Sweet.


GOod day,
Im Rudolf, from South Africa. I would like to purchase chicks or eggs from Gary Underwood or Jim Heinz. Will anybody be able and willing to help me, please, i ask very nicely.
Please, i ask you very nicely
 
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Also, sorry to keep bugging you all. When I say slow to mature, I wasn't meaning poa, I was meaning full maturity as in size and feather growth. Like a fully grown, final stage adult bird. Is it not true that this can take over a year, possibly 18 months to get there?
Yes they are slow to get the full RIR bulk and feather. Second year males look really good.
 
A well-known Leghorn breeder and poultry judge, Mr.Richard Holmes, used to tell a story about a master breeder of White Leghorns who in his early years hired an older poultry judge to come and cull his flock. The old judge locked himself in the poultry house and started catching and killing Leghorns. The story goes that the discards came fast and heavy. When the judge was finished the breeder had only one trio left out of 150 birds. The breeder later commented that from that day forward he made progress!

-quote from The Livestock Conservancy
Genetics are a river that never stops flowing. People cruelly cull birds en masse for superficial traits such as appearance while unseen genetics are washed away unnoticed.
This attempted restricting of genetics to such a small pool is dysgenic, and over decades and centuries it creates sickly birds that look like their ancestors but with only a fraction of the original behavior, function and hardiness

I suppose what I'm saying is that the very notion of an SOP is destructive in the long run, and that despite all human effort, genetics cannot be frozen in time
 

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