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  1. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Our SGs in the US are not coming from dominant CZ. At this time our hatcheries are maintaining their own flocks so what applies there doesn't necessarily apply here. They aren't using rhodebars but maybe a similar type hybrid.
  2. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Splash doesn't cause gold leakage. Splash actually doesn't effort or hide gold at all.
  3. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    SGs should be sex able at hatch from the barring gene or lack of. They are a hybrid sex link. Once you breed two SGs together they're no longer SGs or sex linked. Some of this confusion is because Thomas is from Greece and is dealing with the true original stock. Over here in the states we are...
  4. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Should of said this is how they are supposed to be. The gems were created oversees and Hoover's supposedly bought stock from them to produce them here in the states. IDK how honest that statement was. I'm more inclined to believe Hoover's tried to closely copy their recipe and IDK what happened...
  5. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    It's amazing what we as humans can talk ourselves into believing.
  6. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    You're too funny. I have a jacked up back too. Usually dont have to many issues but now its hurting from ROTFLMAO. Thanks
  7. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Get well soon
  8. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    I don't think there is any connection between the.darker color and her cross beak. I've only had cross beak chicks a couple times and never a blue chick. I like blues because you can basically have three different colors (bbs) in one breeding pen. With that I've raised bbs in several different...
  9. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    You should get 25% black, 50% blue, 25% splash. Half of both sexes would get barring and half wouldn't.
  10. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Yes it's a pullet. Take it that it's a sapphire gem? She is the oldest one on here I believe.
  11. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Found a member @Thomas Lamprogiorgos That is over in Greece and has experience with Dominant CZ the company that originated the sapphire gems. He has some experience and knowledge of the original hybrid. I invited him over so maybe he can share what he knows.
  12. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Found a member @Thomas Lamprogiorgos That is over in Greece and has experience with Dominant CZ the company that originated the sapphire gems. He has some experience and knowledge of the original hybrid. I invited him over so maybe he can share what he knows.
  13. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Same barred lavender Lavender Same barred lavender now Two blue pullet chicks. Kinda looks like they had some sort of pattern on first wing feathers Just a different barred project. Just to show how interesting barring on a pattern can be
  14. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    I have a lot of catching up to do. First though I wanted to correct something (give me a chance to brag even if only to myself) The pic I posted isn't an Orpington. She is a barred lavender LEGHORN. Its a project I've been working on that may finally start nearing the finish line. Anyways I've...
  15. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Nether of your light suspected cockerels are barred. I agree double gene barred is easier to see on blue then single gene barred. If they're barred its not just in one area and it is there with the first feathers and doesn't change with adult feathers. I have seen many lose color and appear...
  16. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    What do you mean leg color was wrong? What color are they? Pic of Lav orp from Hoover's. And SG from Hoover's I'm not a huge fan of hybrids so not sure what all is out there. There are blue barred breeds though. Not langshan no feathered legs. Not Andalusian they have really dark legs. Not...
  17. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    I didn't know this part. Where SGs all you ordered? If so I would think if they threw in extras they would be the same. But maybe not. Now you have me upside down. Maybe they're going to grow to be some fine looking lavender orpington roosters or something. Lol
  18. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    Yes some things are there from the start and others can take some time. With the black coppers the copper always takes a while to show up. I've raised quite a few and any signs of copper coming in as a chick always points to males. It still takes time to show in full. I've had hens that were...
  19. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    If a bird is barred it will show when they feather out. It doesn't come in later.
  20. The Moonshiner

    What is a sapphire gem?

    I'm still wondering about this myself. I raise leghorns and always have some pullets that get combs big enough and pink enough that others swear they're cockerels until I show them a cockerel of the same age and they see how huge their combs are at that young. The head spots may be elusive but...
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