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  1. MadGardener

    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    Commercial birds live short lives, making herd immunity nigh impossible. Of course the reported mortality rate oh H5N9 does the same. Sadly, the world's ability to feed the human population is dependent on "industrializing" agriculture. This increases fragility. Someone is focusing on the...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    I assumed they ran out of icons.
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    This is a definite possibility. I don't feel that anyone, government official or not, can (ethically) tell a person what they can or can't do with their property. Just as far as those actions don't affect the lives or property of others. All of these instances we're thinking of are hypothetical...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    Personally I think living through Covid has given the general population a familiarity with viruses and terms used that is actually helpful to apply to HPAI. It seems like the first page of the study found two virus strains with the same genetic mutation. The text indicated there was no...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    Ah, the phenomenon of getting taller the longer you do mucky chores!
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    Interesting that all Johnston County, NC cases are turkeys. I wonder if they may be affiliated sites with the same employees visiting several sites. I brought a bird home from Orange County 2 weeks ago. I would be a nervous wreck if it was 2 days ago. I used to live in Wake County very close...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    I thought it was confusion with Johnson County, WY. My apologies.
  8. MadGardener

    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    That's Johnston County, NC. Near Raleigh. 😕
  9. MadGardener

    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    My thoughts are the chance for human error increases proportionately to the number of humans in and out of the site. Certainly other variables involved here. Commercial indoor operations likely make for a better incubator. Like a super spreader event.
  10. MadGardener

    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    We've been living with influenza for centuries. I think insect vectors would be a known risk by now. I'm not a biologist. But I am a weird nerd with a lifelong interest in disease. Yeah. I know. Weird. Viruses are unable to reproduce without a host. Generally a virus will infect a particular...
  11. MadGardener

    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    Commercial sites would have employees in and out. Definitely more chance for humans to be a vector in those situations vs. backyard flocks.
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    You aren't missing much. I think this thread is going to have more info relevant to poultry keepers. The local NBC News (Winston-Salem) mentioned it briefly pretty early on. Both reports emphasized not a risk to humans. It seemed like the national report was also focusing on shortages and...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    I noticed this last night as well. I imagine there is a little fear of disruption post Covid. If people thought another crazy new virus would spread human to human the economy would get turbulent again.
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    A few years ago I visited a bat cave that had bats who were white nose syndrome free, but surrounded by affected bats. Before and after entering, all guests scrubbed in a sterilite style tub with a bleach solution. One touch I liked is that the bottom of the tub was lined with astroturf. If I...
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    Avian influenza found in South Carolina

    The PDF here has further details but no indication of quarantine time. https://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_health/2015/fs-hpai-what-to-expect-if-you-suspect.pdf
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