Anyone has any idea for pintail and woodducks?

[Koipondduck]

I was told that if I have wood duck and pin tail ducks, I needed to keep then in Pen/coop combo since they tend to be illusive and may fly away? does anyone know what is the food preferences for these ducks?

I think this will be an alternative way to look at some thing nice, give them a great ( i mean a great home) and enjoy their company. I will just let the mallards out since they tend to come back to pen. However, I was told to keep them in the new pen/coop for 3 weeks before letting them. out. . What do you guys think?

Miss Lydia and superchemicalgirl what are your opinions?

Also, how do you sex a male and a female duck in any species? either wood, pin tail or anything.

I am pro for letting them out ( them refers to wood, mandarine and pin tail) but I am being told that I should just keep them inside.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Move over to the ornamental thread and ask destin duck, and the others there about housing (aviary) and dietary needs. They are much different than domestics with needs. We have woods and mandarins. They are fun to look at, but a hands off kind of thing and yes must be kept enclosed to keep them.

 

[Koipondduck]

Hi, thanks for your reply. They love worms I know. I now have two mandarine and three Pin tail ducks. I will keep my mallards outside since they need to be out and keep these in the pen/coop combo. I mean I do have a house for these malladrs.

 

[Koipondduck]

could you please tell me how to make wood duck and mandarine ducks bigger? what types of food do they need that enhanced their colors?

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

All of ours are in eclips plumage right now, and one male is about there. Eclips is their dull coloring they go into each year. They will naturally molt back into nuptial plumage again in fall and be brightly colored.

 

[Koipondduck]

IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONTACT YOU? BY mistake, my friend picked out a male mandarine duck thinking it is a wood duck. However, I do have a male wood duck. Today I lost a pin tale and it flew right out of my cage since I am new to this. I built them a beautufl cage with perch, a great paint job . put bamboo in it and tyvac the back of the coop. I have a water pen for them with water lettuce and stuff but I realize that I need a bigger pind for them. Here is the coop picture but due to having sun light htting on it , it was hrad to take a great picture. Now I have to hunt down a pin-tail male that I can affored, I only paid $96 for three pin tail and the male was the beauty.





For some reason, my spray spainter is not working and I can't get through to the post with a roller cover. I must make this spray painter work to get thsi done.

 

[BayGoose]

I have Northern Pintails that I have hatched from eggs and they thought I was their Momma at first. But as they grew older, they have become very skittish as a typical wild duck would be. They don't make good pets as a domestic would. But they are neat to watch. I have mine in a ginormous 40 ft x 40 ft pen for just three little pintails

. But if they were let out, no doubt they would fly away.

 

[Koipondduck]

Yes, these are very skittish and flapping wings all the time. I am amazed by Ohio regulation although Federal law does not require any hobbist to keep wood ducks unless
someone is breeding them for reselling purpose. Here is the quote from Waht you should know about a Federal Migratory Bird waterfowl salw and dispoal permit
It explains that you can have mallards if they are reared in domestically and you got them from others as a gift or purchased them. Medina Tractor supply told me that I did not need a permit at all since they sell it all the time but state agency tells me that I need to have a permit. All vets and local professionals are telling me that for hobbists it is not necessary to have couple migratory birds in the back yard " if you did not catch it from the wild" or you can have them if you purchased them from a " licensed dealter" which I have. I talked to a Regional manager today that assured me that it is totally unnecessary to get these permits as a hobbist. It is really taking the joy out of my enjoyment of my back yard and we are all stresesd out. Here are the regulations. ::

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A Federal Migratory Bird Waterfowl Sale and Disposal permit will authorize you to sell, donate, or otherwise dispose of to another person, properly marked, captive-reared migratory waterfowl and their eggs. A permit is not required to sell or dispose of properly marked, captive-reared mallards. You should review Title 50 Parts 10, 13, and 21.25 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]You are responsible for reviewing and understanding these regulations before you request and accept a permit. [/FONT][/FONT]These regulations can be found on our website at: http://www.fws.gov/permits/ltr/ltr.html. Below is a review of several sections pertinent to a Federal Migratory Bird Waterfowl Sale and Disposal permit.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]1. Do I need a permit to possess captive-reared migratory waterfowl? [/FONT][/FONT]
No. Any person may, without a permit, lawfully acquire properly marked, captive-reared migratory waterfowl of any species, alive or dead, or their eggs, and possess and transport such birds or eggs and any progeny or eggs solely for his own use, subject to the following conditions:
(a) Such birds, alive or dead, or their eggs may be lawfully acquired from holders of valid Waterfowl Sale and Disposal permits.
(b) All progeny of such birds or eggs hatched, reared, and retained in captivity must be physically marked as defined in 21.13(b). (Also see question 3 below.)
(c) No birds or eggs or progeny may be disposed of by any means, alive or dead, to any other person unless you have a valid Waterfowl Sale and Disposal permit.
(d) Lawfully possessed and properly marked waterfowl may be killed, in any number, at any time or place, by any means except shooting. Such birds may be killed by shooting only in accordance with all applicable hunting regulations.
(e) When you acquire any waterfowl, alive or dead, from a Waterfowl Sale and Disposal permittee, the permittee must give you the original of the completed Form 3-186, Notice of Waterfowl Transfer or Sale, providing all information required by the form and method or methods by which individual birds are marked.
Other regulations governing the possession of waterfowl can be found in 50 CFR 21.14


Since I am not having a bear, tiger, Phthons or Lions, I do not know why I would even need a permit. I think I will return my wood bird.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Sorry one flew away, but housing that many breeds in such a tiny space will lead to fights and them wanting to escape at any cost. Also just because federal law doesn't require permits, doesn't make it odd when states do require them. It's part of keeping wild ducks in captivity. Not sure what the shelves are inside that space, but they won't nest there if that's your plan.

It's always best to research all needs from housing (size and materials to build it from) to diet and permits before ever buying anything.

Many locations require permits for domestic ducks too, some places don't allow ducks (or any waterfowl) at all as they are listed as livestock. This restricts having them to areas properly zoned. It isn't always "right" to those who want them, but finding out the laws (local [city, tow, county] state and federal) are a must when choosing to own something other than a house cat or dog. After all dogs require a license and no one complains about that.

 

[Koipondduck]

No, the area is not small for 18 ormental fowls. I have added a pond area. I do not think you have seen the new addition.
I was told by professionals that they need 7 to 10 square foot for one water fowl. I am well aware of this nesting boxes and got them to mount it.
Most came here and said, it looks like a "little piece of heaven" . I.

Also, those sleves are for them to climb up since they have ramps to them and I did not think "they will nest there". I send detail paper work for licensing
and I have no intension of breeding them unless they want to.

Thrid, this avairy is now has mechanized plumbing that I do not even have to go inside the avaiary. It has a sump pump at the bottom that is
plumbled in outside that will cary the water out to my garden for fertilizeing and I flip my house back and has a provision to hook it up outside that fill water. I change water thrree times.

In side it has bamboos, loads of plants and arrow heads for them to george in. I purchased Mazuri food which I mixed with poultry layer for calcium, and one other game bird food and meal worms to feed them. They are healthy and happy compared to where they came from.

Also, we Koi people tend to talk in a politer tones./ manners and tend to be well educated about communication than telling others what to do..... someone that is so new to the hobby is doing wonderful things to my own avaiary.

Also, I added a bio filter that is recessed in the back where pond water goes in and gets filtered and pours back in the pond keeping it smell free and clear for them. So far I spend $2300 in this 10 X 12 X 12 foot tall avairy, is that enought?





Avaiary is sitting to the back of this pond






A recessed small water container to keep these water plants.