Are these Malaysian or American seramas?

[Oldegarlicshnapp]

I’m kind of rusty on determining what these are since I’ve seen such extreme Malaysians lol.
The females don’t have this chest though, so those looks like the Americans I have. Maybe they’re a mix? I’ve seen Malaysian females genetically inclined for the puffed posture.
I guess it could be trained American males. Although I trained American roos before and they didn’t go this far.

 

[JedJackson]

The roosters don't look like any Serama I've seen in America. They look almost like fantail pigeons. Wish I could be of more help, but maybe someone more knowledgeable about this breed will show up. I hope so.

 

[fluffycrow]

The males definitely don't look like the American types. That being said, the females do, although I'm not a serama expert by any means. It might just be that the hens are lower quality Malaysian

 

[ColtHandorf]

The males appear to be Malaysian. Females seem to be American. Have you asked the breeder?

 

[Oldegarlicshnapp]

The males appear to be Malaysian. Females seem to be American. Have you asked the breeder?

Yes but it’s one of the common cases where the breeder doesn’t know what they have. This one doesn’t understand the question. So I thought someone here may recognize something, but I think they’re mixed if anything

 

[ColtHandorf]

Yes but it’s one of the common cases where the breeder doesn’t know what they have. This one doesn’t understand the question. So I thought someone here may recognize something, but I think they’re mixed if anything

I'd hazard they are mixed. What are your breeding goals for your program? I just like having toy chickens. No need to stand dumb. lol So I focus on the American variety.

 

[Oldegarlicshnapp]

I'd hazard they are mixed.

Me too. Or I think he had started off w Americans as they’re easier to get, then must’ve bought some Malaysian males. So either they’re separate in that way- or mixed, I dunno!

What are your breeding goals for your program?

I’d like to have Americans and Malaysians with clean genetics in separate coops. I would have to get buddy-buddy with a community to keep the genetic line diverse.

 

[The Birb King]

I honestly don't know the difference between the 2 types. Do the Malaysians pose better or something?

 

[SilverBirds]

I honestly don't know the difference between the 2 types. Do the Malaysians pose better or something?

Yes. Malaysians have more developed chests and extreme posture than the Americans which you can see here.

 

[Oldegarlicshnapp]

I honestly don't know the difference between the 2 types. Do the Malaysians pose better or something?

Yeah that’s really all there is to it. They’re the ones with the big chest pose. With breeding or training, their poses can get really crazy