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I just have a question, bird flu is scary but I remember we’ve had these scares before …. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/05/tennessee-bird-flu-outbreak-poultry-farm

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_h...ent/downloads/hpai/2015-hpai-final-report.pdf

And it goes on of old articles through the years, my question is why is this year seeming so much worse, Georgia has banned all poultry shows, swaps, sales etc, and it’s not even in Georgia yet, but we had a poultry show in 2017 and 2015, just for example, the years I have posted past articles of the outbreak.

Can anyone explain this to me please?

I have increased my biosercurity by upping fresh immunity support herbs for my chickens but clean pens, water, and feeders is always my habit. So any extra tips there will be helpful to please.
Thank you for reading 😊
 
Just make sure that your poultry clothing, tools, shoes/boots, etc are sanitized before entering your chicken coops or pen areas. Make sure all your chickens pen / run areas are covered so no wild birds can access your chickens at all.
 
Just make sure that your poultry clothing, tools, shoes/boots, etc are sanitized before entering your chicken coops or pen areas. Make sure all your chickens pen / run areas are covered so no wild birds can access your chickens at all.
How can you guard against wild birds? I have tin roofing so no fly by poop falling in but little birds hop in through the fencing. I have horse fencing vs chicken wire which deteriorates fast and won’t keep foxes or stray dogs out
 
I just have a question, bird flu is scary but I remember we’ve had these scares before …. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/05/tennessee-bird-flu-outbreak-poultry-farm

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_h...ent/downloads/hpai/2015-hpai-final-report.pdf

And it goes on of old articles through the years, my question is why is this year seeming so much worse, Georgia has banned all poultry shows, swaps, sales etc, and it’s not even in Georgia yet, but we had a poultry show in 2017 and 2015, just for example, the years I have posted past articles of the outbreak.

Can anyone explain this to me please?

I have increased my biosercurity by upping fresh immunity support herbs for my chickens but clean pens, water, and feeders is always my habit. So any extra tips there will be helpful to please.
Thank you for reading 😊
About why this time is so much worse...Based on what I've read, the big observations are:
1) this strain is H5N1, which appears to have mutated over time
2) it came from Europe
3) the OIE says Feb. typically is peak, but that's not true this time

In 2017, for example, the strain found circulating also was HPAI (H7) but it didn't spread as rapidly as far. Today's issue is how quickly the strain spread not only within flyways but across them; some biologists have noted that climate change is disrupting migration patterns to a point where birds are more likely to travel east-west as well as their traditional north-south routes, and allows the flu to survive longer in left-behind feces, mucus, etc. And as we've seen firsthand with Covid-19, bird flus can mutate fast, too.

My own personal thought about why Georgia, for instance, also took such precautions early on (pre-March 4) is because again, in the shadow of Covid-19, a lot of people aren't willing to take chances—let alone on flus that have the capability of spreading to humans, no matter how low rates have been previously.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/avian-flu-outbreak-in-the-u-s-what-to-know-right-now
https://www.oie.int/en/disease/avian-influenza/#ui-id-2
https://www.oie.int/en/disease/avian-influenza/#ui-id-8
 
It's not that this year is "worse"......yet. It's because the last time we had a highly pathogenic Avian influenza outbreak over 50 million birds were lost worldwide. But worse than that, by a lot, is because the the more this spreads, the higher the chance that the virus will MUTATE to infect pigs or humans routinely (human to human transmission is the ultimate fear!). In the medical article I just read ( https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2515135518821625 ), there were 840 cases confirmed by laboratory analysis where humans got it from birds...except HALF of those cases were FATAL! They also said that they have cultured it from pigs, which is VERY foreboding, even though it isn't making pigs sick yet! Now, we can comfort ourselves by saying that many of those cases were in 3rd would countries that didn't have good access to medical treatment, but in many cases they simply weren't tested for it. Most doctors are not asking patients if they have poultry and most patients wouldn't think it was relevant and tell the doctor, unless their flock had been diagnosed. It's the potential for worldwide food disruption since chickens feed much of the world, and the 50% death rate for humans that is disturbing. If it mutates to human to human transmission, Covid will look like it was EASY!

I'm not sure why they didn't work harder to make better vaccines for birds, at least for the highly pathogenic varieties. The only thing I know is that in the past RNA vaccines have always had huge complication rates that stopped them from being used. I haven't been able to find anything on the complication rate for the Avian Influenza vaccines they worked on, but it may have been scrubbed from Google Scholar because the research is directly applicable to the RNA vaccines they developed for Covid.
 

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