Brown and Yellow scabs on skin

[AMURPHY227]

I have a hen I’ve had inside for 4 days. - she’s inside bc her sister was starting to bully her, and she had seperated herself from the flock. She put herself in a corner inside the coop for 2 days so I intervened so I could see what’s wrong.
I have yet to figure out what’s wrong with her. I posted a picture of her face a few days ago thinking I was possibly dealing with Favus. Her face only was pale and dry. I put monistat on it and it was ok next day. Continued the monistat and yesterday started with Vaseline.

Also been putting Monistat around her vent honestly because I don’t know what else to do. Her poop is not runny- it’s actually thick and mostly the white urates with dark green- I know she isn’t eating enough- she’s been wanting only watermelon. No scrambled eggs, no yolk, would eat little mash until yesterday, no yogurt, no bananas- just watermelon. She has been drinking water with electrolytes in it, and I’ve been putting B complex gel in her beak twice a day. Yesterday I noticed her keel bone was prominent so I syringe fed her some water with electrolytes and this evening began tube feeding. So far all we’ve tube fed is warm pedialyte. I did 32mL because our scale is packed up somewhere from a move. I know the last time I weighed she was just over 4 lbs so I estimated 2.5 right now.
Will tube feed some baby bird formula in about an hour after I make sure she’s pooped.

I was cleaning her vent this evening and noticed dry skin around it that was peeling. I thought it was the monistat that dried up, so I got tweezers and peeled, then peeled more, and eventually found myself underneath her wing.

These scabs were under both of her wings like this, and there were random little yellow scabs mostly by her wing and neck areas.

That being said- I did just treat them for Feather Mites a week and a half ago. Not depluming mites, feather mites (Megninia). I did a Permethrin dip. I was planning to do their second dip tomorrow (minus her bc she’s ill) but we have a tropical storm probably headed for us so it will not be dry anytime soon.

Are these scabs a secondary fungal infection from those mites? I know their saliva can cause a fungal contamination so is that what I’m dealing with?

If so- could that be the cause to my hens unknown illness?
And- how do I treat that?


Here are the best pictures I could get in between her wings.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Could be from the dip.

 

[AMURPHY227]

Could be from the dip.

That’s what I initially thought when I brought her in was she was having a reaction to the dip.
Should I do an Epsom soak to clean her and treat the scabs with povidone iodine and monistat?
I’m Leary on soaking weak hens now since the last one I did passed away a couple hours later.
Side note to add- there is still kind of a filmy texture on her feathers, and she still has a smell of permethrin on her that I can smell when I hold her.

Not sure if that is normal or not 12 days later, I’ve never had to dip before now.

 

[AMURPHY227]

@Eggcessive @azygous @casportpony

 

[Eggcessive]

Are you still applying miconazole to her face? How is it looking? You had dipped her in the past in permethrin. It normally is applied as a dust or using about 15 ml (1/2 ounce) a spray bottle. The dust is probably easier on them and does nit chill them. Can you see any more mites or lice on her? I just wonder if the dip irritated her skin. It is hard to know what is actually going on with her. She sounds like she has a lot of health problems. I would not bathe her, but that is me. It is stressful to most chickens. There can be skin conditions with Mareks disease. It is possible that her favus may be related, and favus is a fungal infection. It can spread to the head and some feathered areas, but I don’t know that it would be all over the body.

 

[AMURPHY227]

Are you still applying miconazole to her face? How is it looking? You had dipped her in the past in permethrin. It normally is applied as a dust or using about 15 ml (1/2 ounce) a spray bottle. The dust is probably easier on them and does nit chill them. Can you see any more mites or lice on her? I just wonder if the dip irritated her skin. It is hard to know what is actually going on with her. She sounds like she has a lot of health problems. I would not bathe her, but that is me. It is stressful to most chickens. There can be skin conditions with Mareks disease. It is possible that her favus may be related, and favus is a fungal infection. It can spread to the head and some feathered areas, but I don’t know that it would be all over the body.

That was the first time I had ever dipped them on July 5. I did it in lukewarm/room temp water, and I only dipped them so I knew all their feathers got covered. Some had a lot more on their feathers than others.
Before that I dusted them twice, just because it was all I could do at the time due to rain every weekend the entire month of June, preventing me from letting them out long enough to treat them and the coop and run also.

I haven’t seen any lice and didn’t see any live bugs on their feathers for 8 days after dipping when I looked under the scope, then on day 8 I saw one larvae and a nymph- so I know that previous eggs hatched.

I haven’t seen anything on her but I’ll check her under the scope, it’s hand held and should be fairly easy since she isn’t moving around much.

Her face coloring is normal again and 2 days ago I stopped the Miconazole on her face and started applying Vaseline just to keep it moisturized.

the parts that are peeling are just like peeling sunburned skin. I’m gonna try to treat her scabs and see what happens, and I’m gonna check all my others to see if they have anything like it on them too this afternoon.

 

[AMURPHY227]

She passed away last night in my arms right when I was about to tube feed her some baby bird formula.

She actually had a normal color and textured poop yesterday, and her keel bone wasn't as prominant as it was the day I started so I thought for sure the tube feeding was helping her, and she seemed a little more alert. She was standing and moving lot more too than she had been.

I'd treated the scabs with Povidine Iodine and some antifungal athletes foot cream.

I am bringing her to LSU for a necropsy this afternoon.
This is the 2nd bird I lost in a 2 month span so I definitely need to know what killed her. I didn't see any scabs on any of my others when I looked yesterday so I don't particularly think it was mite related. My gut is telling me its not Mareks and that it was possibly a gangrenous infection but either way I need to know, my brain is all over the place!! I did what I could for my girl
Y'all just say a prayer for me that its not something my whole flock is affected by.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I'm sorry she didn't make it.

Please do let us know what you find out from LSU.