Bullying. Again. What am I doing wrong?

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I really need help, BYC. I'm sorry this is longwinded, but I want to give as much relevant detail as possible. I'm certainly not new to bully behavior.

Backstory
I lost my original flock in 2023 (we rehomed several times) due to bullying and feather picking. We had 4 chickens in a 9x12 pen, 2 of which were production reds (the feather pickers). I learned my lesson about production breeds, flock size, breed disposition, redundant feeders/waterers, and visual blocks. We decided to try again this spring with an upgraded pen and new bantam flock.

The Bantam Flock
As many of you know, it's been very difficult to purchase chickens this year. I originally wanted a uni-flock of six smaller, docile birds. I ended up with 6 Pekin Bantams (3 Mottled and 3 Calico) + 2 Mille Fleur d'Uccle. One d'Uccle passed the first night. The rest are now 14 weeks old. All female.

The Problem
My d'Uccle has started to bully one of my Mottled Pekins. The d'Uccle has always been a bossy bird that's stimulated by pecking order disputes. But this new behavior is excessive. She goes out of her way to follow and harass the lower ranked Mottled. The Mottled does not fight back. She bows her head in submission and gets pecked repeatedly until she can't take it anymore and tries to leave. The d'Uccle will follow. The d'Uccle does have a tendency to get visually fixated (she'll peck at something out of place for 20+ minutes straight), and the Mottled she's bullying has a much redder comb than her sisters. I don't know if this is relevant. The d'Uccle is nowhere near point of lay. Still has a small, pale comb.

How I've Handled It
I watched this play out for about 2-3 minutes to see if it would resolve, then intervened. I started by giving the d'Uccle a peck correction on the head. She shook this off and resumed her harassment. I then gently pinned her down like a rooster would. She responded well to this and held a submissive position, even after I stood up. But she also shook this off and went back to harassing the Mottled. I then picked her up (she hates this) and held her for several minutes. That seemed to knock her out of it. I came back out a couple hours later, only to watch the d'Uccle stepping over other chickens to harass her victim who was dust bathing against the wall. At that point, I picked her up and brought her inside. She's sitting alone in the basement brooder. I will purchase a dog crate to put in the run this weekend.

My Setup
I'll attach a photo.
I do not free range, but I have a 9x18 covered run. There's a dedicated perching area with multiple levels and trays with pellets. I have 2 dig boxes with high walls to block sight of each feeder; one box is for dust bathing and one for peck toys (which contain a whole-grain version of their regular feed). There's a 4-foot bench they love to sit on and under. I have 2 feeders (with crumble that they ignore) and 2 waterers. We scatter pellets around the entire run twice a day for them to forage. I will occasionally offer them some of the plants growing on the left, or some fresh produce (cucumber, blueberries, etc), at the end of the day. The run has an industrial greenhouse fan, radiant barrier under the roof, and shade cloths that I move about to maximize cooling.

Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Is it really a matter of space? Is it because I'm not free ranging? Is my d'Uccle just kind of a butthole? How could I handle this better? I'll put her back out with the group at bedtime and monitor again tomorrow. Like I said, I'll pick up a dog crate to put in that empty center space (which is what the space is there for).

Any comments, feedbacks, suggestions... anything, seriously. It will be so much appreciated. I don't think I can handle having a flock unravel on me again. So please, let me have it if there's something I can be doing better!
 

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Wanted to add, I understand there's a school of thought that I should just let this play out (assuming there's no blood). I would agree from an integration standpoint, or even if the birds are at point of lay. But this is a juvenile group of brooder mates. Pecking order stuff is fine. Following this bird around for several minutes to harass her is not. I don't know. Talk me off a ledge if I'm way off base here.
 
I love that article. I've had it bookmarked since 2023. I aspire to one day have a separate jail partition, but my current run gets too wet around the edges.

I'm really hoping that, by some miracle, spending the afternoon in the basement will reset the d'Uccle's little bird brain. She's just been laying in one spot for hours, not eating or drinking, so she's clearly upset. 😕

I will consider that I'll need to reset the pecking order, so thank you.
 
Update
I put the d'Uccle back outside before bed. Her attitude was much improved. She still did not want the Mottled in her space, but she left it at that and did not pursue. Fingers crossed that they can navigate this new dynamic. I'll continue to update both for my own records and for anyone in the future that may be following along.
 
Update
I put the d'Uccle back outside before bed. Her attitude was much improved. She still did not want the Mottled in her space, but she left it at that and did not pursue. Fingers crossed that they can navigate this new dynamic. I'll continue to update both for my own records and for anyone in the future that may be following along.
If she starts up again you will need to separate her for longer. It usually takes a few days to a week or 2 to reset a bird's place in the pecking order
 
If she starts up again you will need to separate her for longer. It usually takes a few days to a week or 2 to reset a bird's place in the pecking order
Agreed. This was just meant as a mental reset for her, which may be totally pointless in the end. It is alarming that she sat in one spot for the 4 hours and did not eat or drink. Though I suppose I'll be forcing her hand if we do a true pecking order reset.
 
Agreed. This was just meant as a mental reset for her, which may be totally pointless in the end. It is alarming that she sat in one spot for the 4 hours and did not eat or drink. Though I suppose I'll be forcing her hand if we do a true pecking order reset.
Might be worth doing a health check on her in case something is going on
 
Might be worth doing a health check on her in case something is going on
Since you mentioned it, I made a post recently about how my chickens practically refuse to eat from their feeders. They rely on us tossing pellets (which is not measured), refilling the whole-grain toys (which is not daily), or offering cold mash (which is only on hot days). My d'Uccle is the absolute worst in this regard. I feel like she practically starves herself to hold out for the "good stuff", and this is potentially triggering her behavior. I'm not sure how to correct this other than to call her bluff and go to feeders only. Aside from that, she's fit as a fiddle. Just did health checks last weekend.
 
Since you mentioned it, I made a post recently about how my chickens practically refuse to eat from their feeders. They rely on us tossing pellets (which is not measured), refilling the whole-grain toys (which is not daily), or offering cold mash (which is only on hot days). My d'Uccle is the absolute worst in this regard. I feel like she practically starves herself to hold out for the "good stuff", and this is potentially triggering her behavior. I'm not sure how to correct this other than to call her bluff and go to feeders only. Aside from that, she's fit as a fiddle. Just did health checks last weekend.
I would call her bluff, she has you trained. Treats should be an unexpected surprise, not something to skip meals over
 

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