Canker Treatment: Acidified Copper Sulfate HELP

[ebisu]

My previous post.

Yesterday marked the 7th day of treating with the powdered METRONIDAZOLE as that was what I was able to get a hold of w/o a vet rx and quickly. She's made some improvement (cheese substance under tongue is minimal to none and she's gained over 100 grams).

But she is still producing some mucus from her throat. Since I discovered she has canker, I've checked down her throat and and as far down as I can see I don't see any more of the cheese or plaques but I can assume it's in her crop, esophagus but further down. The mucus makes it difficult for her to get her full amount of food/water for the day. She's been alert since I discovered it 12/31/24 last year. She's still isolated. I continue to clean whatever is under her tongue.

About her:
- 3 years old
- 1390 grams
- Easter Egger

01/13/25
- last tube feeding of Kaytee Exact mixed with water+ 20% METRONIDAZOLE powder. 120ml twice a day.
- started the rest of my flock on 1/4 tsp Acidified Copper Sulfate+ 1 gallon of water as a preventative

01/14/25
- day 2 of 10 of the flock treatment (1/4 tsp Acidified Copper Sulfate+ 1 gallon of water)
- tube fed her 100ml of Kaytee Exact mixed with water in the morning
- took 20 ml of the treatment made for the flock and syringe dripped that into her mouth to drink
- left about a pint of the flock treatment in a bowl for her to drink by herself (if she can)

My questions:
- Again, am I doing this right?
- Can I mix the water+acidified copper sulfate into her wet mash as I've done with the METRONIDAZOLE powder? Or is it better to keep it seperate?
- If I keep it separate, how much should I be syringe feeding her the water+acidified copper sulfate?
-Is there any harm to mixing 1 gallon+1/4 tsp of acidified copper sulfate then pouring out a pint on the side for her?



Links that I've already visited and/or have been shared with me:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/canker-in-chickens.78133/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...dications-to-all-poultry-and-waterfowl.73335/
https://poultrydvm.com/condition/canker
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/go-team-tube-feeding-updated-12-29-2019.805728/

 

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[Debbie292d]

- Can I mix the water+acidified copper sulfate into her wet mash as I've done with the METRONIDAZOLE powder?

Yes. But it should be a smaller portion of the mash so that it eats it all to get the full dose. Anytime you can get them to take meds/suppliments with their food is a bonus. I hate having to put pills in their mouth or syringe them if I don't have to.

-Is there any harm to mixing 1 gallon+1/4 tsp of acidified copper sulfate then pouring out a pint on the side for her?

I would use 1/16th teaspoon and just make a quart at a time; that's two pints. It doesn't seem like there's an issue with shelf life, but most things are best once mixed, to be used within 24 hours. That's why I'd just make smaller quantities of it.

 

[ebisu]

Yes. But it should be a smaller portion of the mash so that it eats it all to get the full dose. Anytime you can get them to take meds/suppliments with their food is a bonus. I hate having to put pills in their mouth or syringe them if I don't have to.

I understand, that makes sense. I wasn't sure If I was able to mix it into her tube food as I was doing previously with the METRONIDAZOLE powder. I was worried about the safety and efficacy of the method. Thank you for clarifying. I will add more to the mixture that I tube feed her which may make it more watery but that means I'll leave a more solid/mushy mash for her to eat during her own time (my mom fed her half a banana today so I know it's possible but messy and she wasn't able to eat anything on her own before so it may be a sign of improvement).

 

[ebisu]

I would use 1/16th teaspoon and just make a quart at a time; that's two pints. It doesn't seem like there's an issue with shelf life, but most things are best once mixed, to be used within 24 hours. That's why I'd just make smaller quantities of it.

I see, thank you for clarifying the shelf life part. I thought I had to literally make a new 1 gallon batch separately for my infected girl but now I understand if I wanted to, I can make a smaller portion and divide that between my girl and the rest of the flock. I may stick with the 1 gallon method and putting aside 1 pint for my girl as I have 9 girls total.

I don't have a 1/16 tsp but the smallest I have is a 1/4 tsp and a digital scale that measures grams.

 

[Debbie292d]

I see, thank you for clarifying the shelf life part. I thought I had to literally make a new 1 gallon batch separately for my infected girl but now I understand if I wanted to, I can make a smaller portion and divide that between my girl and the rest of the flock. I may stick with the 1 gallon method and putting aside 1 pint for my girl as I have 9 girls total.

I don't have a 1/16 tsp but the smallest I have is a 1/4 tsp and a digital scale that measures grams.

Not sure where you are, but you could pick up a set of measuring spoons for pretty cheap at a dollar store or Walmart.

I have one but not sure I’ve even ever used it.

 

[Eggcessive]

I just saw that you changed your name from Katie 94. If you have a gram scale, generally a tsp is about 5 grams, but every powder can vary a little. If that helps.

 

[ebisu]

I just saw that you changed your name from Katie 94. If you have a gram scale, generally a tsp is about 5 grams, but every powder can vary a little. If that helps.

it felt weird to have my own name on display and I finally got around to changing it.

Thank you. 1/4 tsp was 2g on the dot on my scale so now I'm questioning the accuracy of it but I'll play around with it or get a different scale.