Chickens ARE herbivores...

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As people who raise chickens and other livestock I know that most here know what's what when it comes to commercial agriculture terminology and gimmicks, but for other it seems that they buy into whatever somebody else tells them. So in response to this Perdue chicken commercial I keep seeing and someone mentioning "grassfed beef" in a group on facebook I kinda had a little rant. This is all in reference to commercially product agriculture products and I promote buying LOCAL. This is what I posted:

I can be a health nut at times but come on people buying into the hype when it comes to agriculture, I get a little aggravated.

Myth 1: Grass fed beef is significantly better for you. Ummm….NO! It is however STINKY and tastes like GRASS. It is also CHEAPER to raise a cow on grass than it is to FINISH them on grain. So they are charging more for a product that cost LESS to produce. Having said that, grain FINISHED beef is NOT raised on GRAIN. They are finished on it, 60-90 days before being processed. They “live” naturally on grass up until that time or in a dry lot where they are feed hay (which is natural for them to consume).

Myth 2: Chickens are herbivores. I notice an advertisement for Perdue. They advertise “All vegetarian diet.” Again another GIMMICK! Feeding plant products can be cheaper than some animal proteins, PLUS they get to charge more for this simple label for those who are “smart” enough to buy into it. CHICKENS are OMNIVORES!!! Trust me, I have them. They will eat BUGS, SMALL ANIMALS (lizards, mice, etc), AND WILL CONSUME MEAT given the chance!!!! Don’t buy into HYPE.

~Still on Perdue, their label on their meat chickens also states that they are raised “CAGE FREE.” For us country folks who live near chickens houses and have maybe even got to go in them before, you know that the chickens are not caged inside the building. –Doesn’t matter what company they are from. All meat chickens are raised in a large building where they can move about freely –so to speak. No individual cages. Just google commercial chicken houses, you’ll see. Only egg laying hens are caged.

Myth 3: If it says “free range” or “cage free” the laying hens get to live wonderful lives in open pasture fields like the little picture on the carton shows. NO!!!! Something about commercial agriculture marketing is FINE PRINT. They can make their own definitions to what their terms mean. “Free-range” for them can mean having access to the outdoors. But that doesn’t mean they get to be in a lush green field picking grass and bugs. Or “Cage- free” doesn’t mean that they even get access to the outside, just means they aren’t confined in a 2X2 wire cage. It may be a 4X4. As oppose to my definitions: If I kept my chickens confined to their coop/run I could call them cage-free. But I let them roam the yard which is not fenced in and I could call them free-range. I market my eggs as “farm fresh” or “Country eggs” because I want to stay away from commercial agriculture terms.

Myth 4: Organic. Don’t even want to get started on that. You want organic, grow it yourself or buy local so you know 100% what you are getting. But besides that, with organic farming you produce lower yields because you can’t spray for insects or weeds. If organic was the only way we commercially produced food, the World would STARVE. Not saying that it's bad, but I don't think it is any better (my opinion) plus it can't feed the world.

I guess what I’m getting at is haven been a student of agriculture with a degree in the field, plus haven grown up on a farm, grown up in a farming community, now having my own farm, and on top of that common sense, I see a lot of people buying into gimmicks because someone else says it’s better for you. I go in a grocery store and buy the cheapest brands of meat, the normal stuff. If it says something special on the label and it cost a $1.00 more per pound I use my brain to determine if that dollar is worth it or if I’m wasting my money. Just like people are willing to pay $3-$4 for a dozen eggs that say “cage-free” on the label, or because they are brown eggs in the grocery store. Yet, I can barely sell my truly cage free and free range eggs for $1.50. If you want to buy something special, buy local, otherwise save yourself a dollar or two, because spending more on what a label says DOES NOT mean you are purchasing a superior product. ~Thanks for letting me rant :)

~Again posted this to Faceboook, but wanted to share here. Because it seems that so many who aren't directly involved with agriculture in one form or another don't really understand what these huge commercial agriculture companies are selling them, which in most cases is print on a label.
 
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Well said.
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Not meaning to be quarrelsome, but this is a misconception. You certainly can treat for insects or weeds, you just have to be very careful about what method you use. Some very potent pesticides are organic in origin, but they are often more expensive and usually don't have the residual action of the more commonly used products. Generally speaking, I agree with what you said, in that a lot of what is used as pitch points in advertising is really just hype, with little or no science to back it up.
 
Not meaning to be quarrelsome, but this is a misconception. You certainly can treat for insects or weeds, you just have to be very careful about what method you use. Some very potent pesticides are organic in origin, but they are often more expensive and usually don't have the residual action of the more commonly used products. Generally speaking, I agree with what you said, in that a lot of what is used as pitch points in advertising is really just hype, with little or no science to back it up.

I don't take it as quarrelsome. But you said it yourself that it is more expensive, so my point of organic can't feed the world still stands. -Which was truly the only point I was making on the organic argument. There are others I can make, but not as big as this one. I'm not against it, don't get me wrong. Just that I wouldn't buy it in a grocery store.
 
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From what I've seen, the 'feed the world' argument is misleading at best. To me, there are a lot of misconceptions on both sides of the fence, including what you have posted here. For example:

Grass fed beef is significantly better for you. Ummm….NO! It is however STINKY and tastes like GRASS.

I am confused as to where you are getting that information from. I have never had local, grass fed beef taste like grass or have an unpleasant odor. I greatly prefer the taste, texture, and leaner meat myself. You do have to be careful not to overcook any lean cuts.

It is also CHEAPER to raise a cow on grass than it is to FINISH them on grain. So they are charging more for a product that cost LESS to produce. Having said that, grain FINISHED beef is NOT raised on GRAIN. They are finished on it, 60-90 days before being processed. They “live” naturally on grass up until that time or in a dry lot where they are feed hay (which is natural for them to consume

(I'll have to fix the font later...this computer is not worth fighting with) I just had the unpleasant experience of driving through a few states that were littered with feed lots. The smell was overpowering to the point of making our eyes water despite whizzing by in the car. While the dairy cows on feed lots did mainly recieve hay, the meat cattle were eating whatever goes into their "nutritionally complete" prepared diet. Not suprisingly, there were no homes anywhere near these lots.

But yes, there are many misconceptions and labels that are essentially meaningless. It's just important to get facts right on both sides. :)
 
I eat pastured pork and grassfed beef. I think both are superior in flavor than commercial products. The pork in particular is a huge amount better, lick the burning hot pan better. I'm not sure what feed lot cattle are eating, but I'm pretty sure that it is not "grain". I also know that in large feedlots, dry lot is a complete misnomer. It is a meaningless label like "free range"; the lots are nasty masses of cattle waste and spilled feed. There is also data showing that grass fed beef has a healthier fat combo than "conventional" beef.

http://www.nutritionj.com/content/9/1/10

The points on chickens are true...cage free eggs, free range, all vegetarian feed are all meaningless labels.

You can use all kinds of sprays for organic production, but they are usually less toxic, and less likely to hang around.

Organic production used to be the norm.

This being said...just because something is organic or natural (another meaningless label) it isn't always healthy, savory, safe, or anything else. Tobacco is a perfectly natural product, so are amanita mushrooms, foxglove, and datura. Tobacco makes a fine pesticide, but it is no way healthy for consumption.
 
Actually, grass fed beef IS better for you because of the differences in the composition of the fat produced by the animal finished on grass as opposed to the one finished on grain. How much better grass fed beef is for you I neither know nor care because I don't like it. If done properly, and this is a big if, grass fed beef is not cheaper to produce that grain fed because it takes a lot longer to finish a beef on grass than it does on grain. As for us, we finish our beef on grain and lots of it.

That Purdue chicken commercial drives me nuts. They are exploiting the ignorance of the public and to me, that's tacky. I have been meaning to write them a letter. Won't do any good, but it will make me feel better.
 
My chickens are omnivores. My cattle are herbivores, and my horse is a vacuum. He'll eat it no matter what.

Our cattle are grass fed as grain is very expensive in our neck of the woods. However, I've seen what those feedlots feed, and it's not a grain only diet.

Our grass fed cattle (angus) produce a nice carcass, with suitable marbling. The fat is white, not yellow, and the meat has a great taste. While diet does influence meat production, breeding also has an influence in what ends up on the table. You don't normally see Holstein steaks on the table.

Having said that, the media does influence what people eat. False advertising, outright lies, and so forth. I recommend the consumer research all they can about a product they are buying. Question everything, and let the food producers know the consumers of today are more informed than ever before.
 
The media and food companies will tell us anything to get us to eat what they want us to eat. Even if it's lies. Friends of mine told me they heard a discussion on the radio last week about free range eggs being "unhealthy". Hmmm, I wonder who started that rumour. More and more shops are now stocking free range eggs and consumers are demanding it. Battery farms do not have the monopoly anymore.
 
I don't know about feeding of cows, but I do get a chuckle any time I see the Purdue commercials that advertise "all vegetarian diet." Poor chickens!
 

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