coccidiosis after live vaccination?

[Pugator]

Hello! One week ago I bought one week old ameracuana and araucana baby chickens.
Today I noticed liquidy stool with a little bit blood. Unfortunately one chicken died. The woman I bought the chicken from said it was a side effect of the live vaccine she said I should add one tablespoon vinegear per one litre of water.
I have this https://www.lihneme.cz/umele-kvocny/odchovna-vodni-a-hrabave-drubeze-cleo-microfarm/

I measure the temperature the woman said it must be between 30 and 33 degrees Celsius.

I have chickens in a cage
Dimensions: (height x width x length) external dimensions: 39.5 x 63 x 103 cm. internal dimensions: 38 x 52 x 98 cm.

I use baby changing mats as bedding.

I change the bedding about three times a day (to keep the chickens dry). I change water about the three times a day.

I have food specially for little chicks.

Honestly I dont know what to do.
I thought I should buy the antibiotic , but the lady said it was just a side effect of the vaccine. I want to add that the weather was very warm today, maybe that contributed to the death of the chick too.

I am adding some photos of the droppings, the blood was not very good to take pictures of, there was not enough of it. Some poops are more normal some of them are more watery consistency.

And BTW I am sorry for my english. I am from Czech republic.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

@Wyorp Rock
@Eggcessive
@azygous
I am asking these people for help. Your English is fine! Here in the US we do not give live vaccine for coccidiosis, we give a medicine called Corid and put it in the water for the chicks to drink. It comes in liquid or powder form. These helpers can tell you if chicks this young get coccidiosis, I don't think they do unless they are out on dirt. I don't think the vinegar is going to do anything for your chicks but let's see what these helpers say. Just give the chicks clean fresh water unless they tell you something different. I'm sorry you lost your chick.

 

[azygous]

The vaccine shouldn't cause your chicks to sicken from coccidiosis. About the only way they could get sick from coccidiosis is by being exposed before they came to you to another strain of coccidia than what was contained in the vaccine.

This goes for any bacteria that may be causing infection in their intestines. They were infected before you got them. You won't have anything to lose by getting an antibiotic and giving it to your chicks that are sick.

 

[Eggcessive]

It does look like most of the coccidiosis vaccines used are live vaccines. I believe that you can still treat with Corid even though they have had the vaccine. Also Albon or sulfadimethoxine antibiotic can be used, or toltrazuril. If you lose any more chicks, have you state vet do a necropsy on them, but the body must be kept cold, not frozen. Sorry for your loss. Here is one vaccine used.
https://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/species/poultry/products/coccivac-d2

 

[Wyorp Rock]

One week ago I bought one week old

liquidy stool with a little bit blood. Unfortunately one chicken died. The woman I bought the chicken from said it was a side effect of the live vaccine

I thought I should buy the antibiotic , but the lady said it was just a side effect of the vaccine.

Sometimes a vaccine may not take or it's ineffective against certain strains. There's a lot of things that can happen.

You mention you are in the Czech Republic and thought you should buy an antibiotic (for Coccidiosis). What is available to you? There are a few medications mentioned in POST#4 if you have one of those, I'd treat the chicks.

I also agree, it does look like the Cocci Vaccines are live vaccines, it's reliant on being reconstituted and oocysts to sporulate, so if it weren't live I don't think it would work.
Some major hatcheries here in the U.S. offer Coccidia vaccination when ordering chicks, not sure how many people use it though.

 

[Pugator]

The vaccine shouldn't cause your chicks to sicken from coccidiosis. About the only way they could get sick from coccidiosis is by being exposed before they came to you to another strain of coccidia than what was contained in the vaccine.

This goes for any bacteria that may be causing infection in their intestines. They were infected before you got them. You won't have anything to lose by getting an antibiotic and giving it to your chicks that are

Sometimes a vaccine may not take or it's ineffective against certain strains. There's a lot of things that can happen.

You mention you are in the Czech Republic and thought you should buy an antibiotic (for Coccidiosis). What is available to you? There are a few medications mentioned in POST#4 if you have one of those, I'd treat the chicks.

I also agree, it does look like the Cocci Vaccines are live vaccines, it's reliant on being reconstituted and oocysts to sporulate, so if it weren't live I don't think it would work.
Some major hatcheries here in the U.S. offer Coccidia vaccination when ordering chicks, not sure how many people use it though.

Thank you for you advice!
I apologize for the misunderstanding, I wrote that I can buy antibiotics, actually I can only buy them with a prescription.

 

[Pugator]

It does look like most of the coccidiosis vaccines used are live vaccines. I believe that you can still treat with Corid even though they have had the vaccine. Also Albon or sulfadimethoxine antibiotic can be used, or toltrazuril. If you lose any more chicks, have you state vet do a necropsy on them, but the body must be kept cold, not frozen. Sorry for your loss. Here is one vaccine used.
https://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/species/poultry/products/coccivac-d2

Thank you for you advice!
Unfortunately we dont have Corid in Czechia. We have Sulfadimidinum natricum, Emanox ( but this is just based on herbs), I will call my vet, I hope he can help me. preparations against coccidiosis are mostly only preventive here :/

 

[Eggcessive]

Sulfa antibiotics work, but you might look or ask your vet about toltrazuril or amprollium(the generic Corid.) I have only visited Prague about 5 years ago, but it was very beautiful.

 

[Pugator]

Sulfa antibiotics work, but you might look or ask your vet about toltrazuril or amprollium(the generic Corid.) I have only visited Prague about 5 years ago, but it was very beautiful.

I asked, but they gave me sulfa antibiotics. the vet told me to use antibiotics for three days and then disinfect everything, but honestly I read some studies and it is very difficult to get rid of coccidia.
My vet recommend use Sodium hypochlorite. I hope it will work!
As a Czech, thank you very much for the praise of our small country!!
Prague is nice city, but if you will visit our country again I definitely can recommend you better places than Prague!