Color differences between slate and lavender poults?

[shelleyd2008]

I'm thinking I have 3 lavender turkey poults, since none of them have black specks on them. Does anyone have pictures of lavender poults, about 2-3 months old?


Also, when I bought these, 2 had a buff base color, the other was mostly white with some grey. I thought maybe the buff was a way to determine the sex, but it appears that one of them is a tom and the other a hen, so that won't work. Any idea why they had buff base colors? They are feathering out to look the same

Thanks

 

[shelleyd2008]

Here are some baby pics of them, I'm uploading older pics of them to photobucket, I'll post when it's done.

 

[shelleyd2008]

Well, thanks to another post by OmaBird, I think I've figured out why my 'slate' poults had a buff base as babies. They looked just like the lilacs on this site http://www.porterturkeys.com/lilac.htm

Of course, one of them looked like a slate poult, so apparently the person I got mine from has 2 different types and doesn't know it, but at least I know what they are

 

[OmaBird]

I said this all backwards so I am editing. Glade you figured it out. There still is alot of conterversy as to what a lilac turkey is. What in a name anyways as long as you know the difference. Keven Porter list it as bronze based with 2 slate genes. It breeds true. Sandhill and the SPPA says A Lilac with Lilac mating produces only 25% offspring that are Lilac. Lilacs are a 3-way cross with a genotype for color of bbRrSlsl. Recessive for black, and heterozygous for red and slate. Twenty-five percent of the offspring are Lilac, 25% are Fawn, 25% are Red Slate, and 25% are a washed out Bronze color. Lilacs are a bluish grey with tiny red flecks and a red band in the tail. Did you read the history of the slate by Franklin Albertsen on slates at the bottom? http://www.porterturkeys.com/blueslateselfblue.htm No wonder there is so much confusion.

I am not sure what you mean by buff based. I break everything down into black based (B), blackwing bronze based (b1) and wild bronze (b+). Do you mean fluffy down color?

 

[shelleyd2008]

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I mean their colors when they were fuzzies, 2 of them were buff colored (mostly on the heads) with grey on their backs. The other was white with grey.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Why don't you just ask Kevin Porter directly? He has a contact me on his website. I have known him for years, he is a really nice guy and will be more than happy to help you out.

Steve

 

[OmaBird]

Did they have mask? From the picture I do not see mask in any of them so they might be Porters version of Lilac. That would make them bronze based. Mask are always black based.

I put wing bands on mine. I take pictures as they grow and take notes. I won't remember next year if I don't do this.

 

[shelleyd2008]

No masks, not even on the one that was white with grey.

 

[OmaBird]

Here is one of my toms.

 

[OmaBird]

Its hard to get the right lighting to show off the color.