First Winter in Cold Minnesota with ducks

Urban Waddler

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May 17, 2018
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So, I’ve asked these questions in the past, but I’m asking again because I’m still paranoid. This is my first winter with two Peking ducks. I have read so many things about how to keep ducks warm and healthy in winter but there are so many vague explanations. I’ve been monitoring the situation closely and learning as I go, but I am leaving town for two weeks from mid to late January, and that can be a very cold time in Minnesota. I have two great folks staying at the house to care for my ducks, but I need to feel more secure about the cold before I leave.

1.) insulation. We have a coop a little over four by six feet and about five feet tall at its top (pictured). We put foam board insulation about an inch thick with plywood over it so the ducks wouldn’t eat it. But I worry my measurements weren’t perfect and there are spots without insulation. I have also hung some moving blankets along the walls to provide more warmth. But everyone says insulation is key, so what does that really mean?

2.) draft free but with proper ventilation. We have only one window with hardware cloth open for the winter (we closed off the others) and it’s about four feet from the floor of the coop and about 3.5 by four inches. We also have a run door that opens from the coop that is open during the day with a hanging flap to keep elements out as they come and go. Is this enough insulation? And even with weather stripping, how draft free are we talking? I make sure wet bedding is taken out each night and dry bedding is added. I attached a pic of the inside of the coop from our duck cam, but that’s from before we had blankets up.
3.) Heat. Right now we just have one radiant heat panel on a wall, and one sweater heater (another radiant heat source) hanging from the ceiling along another wall. It only gives off a slight amount of heat when you are literally right next to it. Is this enough??? We get into the negatives here. So far their water hasn’t frozen, but i change it every morning and night. It has gotten down to the teens but not below zero yet.

I realize most people are vehemently against heat lamps, but what if I were to put a 100w ceramic infrared heat emitter bulb inside one of those heavy duty glass enforced plastic fixtures with ceramic/metal socket (picture below). I know ceramic is supposed to not shatter and these fixtures get great reviews. But is the risk that some shavings or hay gets up into the cage still high enough to outweigh the benefit? I feel like maybe the 100 watt ceramic bulb (vs 250) along with the cage fixture should be safer, but very curious to see what folks think, as I definitely don’t want a fire.
4.) when to stop letting them outside or in the run?
My ducks love going outside in the cold, and I have to make them come in and thaw when they get icicles all over their feathers. I have plenty of windproof areas to hang out in their run (a little igloo dog house filled with hay, wooden boxes and the like) but often I find them sitting out in the elements and I force them to a warmer spot.

I know that the people watching my ducks will take the job seriously, but I also know they won’t be paranoid worriers like me, always checking the thermometer and snuggling them when they are cold. I thought of putting an indoor cage up for evenings, but I worry this could hinder their ability to acclimate to the extreme weather outside, and I couldn’t keep them caged all day, as they love to jump and run and play.

Any advice would be so so appreciated. I’ve read books, articles, other posts, but I just keep seeing vague things like “insulate,” “draft free,” and the like. I need specifics.

Thank you!!!!
 

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These are outdoor animals.

Keep the water from freezing. Provide a shelter. They will be fine in the negative teens or worse.

Heat lamp, and the other heaters you have installed will result in very bad situation when the power goes out and the ducks have been kept at an artificially high temperature.

I don’t think insulation is important. By draft free don’t have windows at several heights open, keep your ventilation on 2-3 sides open at high spots of the shelter.


Why are you “forcing them to a warmer spot”?
Ducks fly and land on unfrozen spots of water when it is extremely cold outside. They don’t need to be forced by a human who prefers 72 degrees to go somewhere when they are comfortable elsewhere.


You’re also a very lucky person to have neighbors or friends like that. I built my entire setup around the premise of being able to disappear for 2 weeks on a trip without outside assistance. I am not sure I could handle keeping birds if I felt I needed to have this level of care and worry for them.
 
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These are outdoor animals.

Keep the water from freezing. Provide a shelter. They will be fine in the negative teens or worse.

Heat lamp, and the other heaters you have installed will result in very bad situation when the power goes out and the ducks have been kept at an artificially high temperature.

I don’t think insulation is important. By draft free don’t have windows at several heights open, keep your ventilation on 2-3 sides open at high spots of the shelter.


Why are you “forcing them to a warmer spot”?
Ducks fly and land on unfrozen spots of water when it is extremely cold outside. They don’t need to be forced by a human who prefers 72 degrees to go somewhere when they are comfortable elsewhere.


You’re also a very lucky person to have neighbors or friends like that. I built my entire setup around the premise of being able to disappear for 2 weeks on a trip without outside assistance. I am not sure I could handle keeping birds if I felt I needed to have this level of care and worry for them.

These are outdoor animals.

Keep the water from freezing. Provide a shelter. They will be fine in the negative teens or worse.

Heat lamp, and the other heaters you have installed will result in very bad situation when the power goes out and the ducks have been kept at an artificially high temperature.

I don’t think insulation is important. By draft free don’t have windows at several heights open, keep your ventilation on 2-3 sides open at high spots of the shelter.


Why are you “forcing them to a warmer spot”?
Ducks fly and land on unfrozen spots of water when it is extremely cold outside. They don’t need to be forced by a human who prefers 72 degrees to go somewhere when they are comfortable elsewhere.


You’re also a very lucky person to have neighbors or friends like that. I built my entire setup around the premise of being able to disappear for 2 weeks on a trip without outside assistance. I am not sure I could handle keeping birds if I felt I needed to have this level of care and worry for them.

Thank you for your response. First off, the cozy heat panels give off very little heat. They do not gbeberally change the temp inside the coop, but they like to cozy next to them, and I have heard they can help the birds avoid frostbite. They are not hot to the touch and are made to be right up against hay and the like, though I do appreciate your input and will consider whether they are necessary.

To answer your question about why I force them to warmer areas, I’d like to first explain that it is generally me just calling them and walking them over to wind shelter. I do this when they are laying in the snow, covered in icicles, and shaking. Maybe they are stupid? Maybe it’s my fault for babying them? But they are more pets to me than livestock, though we do appreciate the eggs. If I even walk outside, they run to me and jump in my lap and burrow in for heat. These are my first bird’s, period, and perhaps I have done it all wrong...I really can’t say, but we certainly love them and don’t try to force them to do anything but be ducks. Being from Minnesota, I am very comfortable in cold, but my concern is when the high is negative 5 and the low is negative 20, which is rather common. I’ve read that ducks are happy at around 20 degrees Fahrenheit, but are susceptible to frostbite and the like in these low temps. Also, the law in my city requires we have a heat lamp. I have read enough to know this an outrageous and dangerous law, but I thought the safer radiant panels, would suffice as a good alternative.

Thank you for your good sense and seasoned opinion. I hope to get to a place where the girls aren’t such high maintenance, but this first year has been a big learning curve and I’m a worrier.
 
These are outdoor animals.

Keep the water from freezing. Provide a shelter. They will be fine in the negative teens or worse.

Heat lamp, and the other heaters you have installed will result in very bad situation when the power goes out and the ducks have been kept at an artificially high temperature.

I don’t think insulation is important. By draft free don’t have windows at several heights open, keep your ventilation on 2-3 sides open at high spots of the shelter.


Why are you “forcing them to a warmer spot”?
Ducks fly and land on unfrozen spots of water when it is extremely cold outside. They don’t need to be forced by a human who prefers 72 degrees to go somewhere when they are comfortable elsewhere.


You’re also a very lucky person to have neighbors or friends like that. I built my entire setup around the premise of being able to disappear for 2 weeks on a trip without outside assistance. I am not sure I could handle keeping birds if I felt I needed to have this level of care and worry for them.
Also, if you have any tips for how you can leave for a couple weeks without anyone helping, I’d love to hear them. Sounds like you have a great set up, which probably wouldn’t work in my limited space, but I’d love to hear how to keep fresh unfrozen water for the ducks without changing so often or having a heat source!
 
Heated buckets work well here but we seldom get to the negative temps you talked about. But I do have a sweeter heater in my coop and when it gets down into the low 20's teens, singles I plug it in I have old ducks and chickens who I feel can benefit if they choose too. It really doesn't put out much heat unless right next to it. But I like to give mine a choice and I lost a few old ones [over 10] in winter so This is just me.

I keep upper windows on south open over winter. Lots of shavings straw what ever you use. They will snuggle down into it. As for going away that is awesome you have a pet sitter. I go no where unless a short day trip. I don't mind but having someone you can trust to care for your ducks I think is very nice. Enjoy your time away.
 
Heated buckets work well here but we seldom get to the negative temps you talked about. But I do have a sweeter heater in my coop and when it gets down into the low 20's teens, singles I plug it in I have old ducks and chickens who I feel can benefit if they choose too. It really doesn't put out much heat unless right next to it. But I like to give mine a choice and I lost a few old ones [over 10] in winter so This is just me.

I keep upper windows on south open over winter. Lots of shavings straw what ever you use. They will snuggle down into it. As for going away that is awesome you have a pet sitter. I go no where unless a short day trip. I don't mind but having someone you can trust to care for your ducks I think is very nice. Enjoy your time away.
Thank you!!!
 
Also, if you have any tips for how you can leave for a couple weeks without anyone helping, I’d love to hear them. Sounds like you have a great set up, which probably wouldn’t work in my limited space, but I’d love to hear how to keep fresh unfrozen water for the ducks without changing so often or having a heat source!

Water on top of cinderblocks with light bulbs in them. For negative temps will want 100W bulbs. Not LED bulbs . They need to be inefficient bulbs that get hot.

Even in Virginia we see negative temps. I replace the water every 7 days. I wouldn’t hesitate to go 14 if I was going away.
 
I’m reading all this because I have the same questions. It’s my ducks second winter and I feel rather unguided. Thank God for this website!
My ducks are pets and I just have 2. My coop is not insulated and it’s small, maybe 4x3 ft and perhaps 4 or 5 ft tall. It’s got little ventilation holes on the walls up top and a window that’s shut right now. I’ve been using a ceramic heat bulb but last night it was only 17 degrees in there. What worries me more is the high humidity, 73 degrees. It’s going to be in the negatives here for the next couple of days and I am worrying.
I know most people consider ducks to be useful farm creatures, but mine are pets and I want them to be comfortable, not just miserably surviving. I try to recognize what they want, is different then what I think is comfy, however I really worry about frostbite.
 

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