Hatching Eggs- Breeder Requirements

Mar 31, 2021
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Hatching Eggs -
I would like everyone's opinion....
What do you consider to be the fulfillment of a breeder's responsibility in selling hatching eggs? Is it that the eggs are to be fertile and in adequate condition to hatch under normal circumstances. Would you consider the breeder's side of the responsibility to have been met if, all eggs purchased by customer have at least started and grew a developing chick to some point during incubation?

Or is a breeder's responsibility not fulfilled until the majority or all of said eggs have hatched a lively chick?

Personally I feel there are too many factors that cannot be controlled or maintained by the breeder after egg have left their possession to guarantee anything past the fertility of said pen of birds. I feel that if every egg proved to be fertile and every egg started growing a chick, that means the breeder has fulfilled their side of the responsibility by selling viable fertile eggs to customer. The handling of eggs, temp/humidity of incubation/hatching procedures, along with so many other factors could have led to the loss of a fertile egg during incubation/hatching.

I would just like to hear everyone else's opinions on this matter?
 
Would also like to add... What would everyone consider the overall general hatching rate to be for peafowl eggs in general? 80%?! Google (most consider to be the all knowing god of everything knowledge 🙄) seems to think and suggests that peafowl eggs in general are a easy hatch 🙃🙄
I feel like even with the best incubators money can buy and the absolute best handling intentions.... Egg losses during incubation and especially during hatching for peafowl is HIGH. Opinions??
 
Hatching Eggs -
I would like everyone's opinion....
What do you consider to be the fulfillment of a breeder's responsibility in selling hatching eggs? Is it that the eggs are to be fertile and in adequate condition to hatch under normal circumstances. Would you consider the breeder's side of the responsibility to have been met if, all eggs purchased by customer have at least started and grew a developing chick to some point during incubation?

Or is a breeder's responsibility not fulfilled until the majority or all of said eggs have hatched a lively chick?

Personally I feel there are too many factors that cannot be controlled or maintained by the breeder after egg have left their possession to guarantee anything past the fertility of said pen of birds. I feel that if every egg proved to be fertile and every egg started growing a chick, that means the breeder has fulfilled their side of the responsibility by selling viable fertile eggs to customer. The handling of eggs, temp/humidity of incubation/hatching procedures, along with so many other factors could have led to the loss of a fertile egg during incubation/hatching.

I would just like to hear everyone else's opinions on this matter?
I've purchased a ton of hatching eggs over the years to bring in new genes and new varieties. All I expect is the vast majority of those eggs are fertile. Most send along an extra egg or two in case one isn't and I'm happy with those sellers as that helps make up for a non-fertile or otherwise non-starter.

When I'm the seller of hatching eggs, I too send a couple of extra eggs.
 
The reason peafowl are expensive is because peas are so damn hard to hatch. The dirty little secret with large scale peafowl breeders is that if they get a 40% hatch rate they are ecstatic.

All eggs are fertile but not all of the eggs are fertilized, however most are and will start. Shipped eggs on the other hand have been abused and if a customer is honest with themselves they should not expect more than 10% to hatch, only novices would expect a better rate and if they do get a better rate they should also be happy.

I too send extra eggs with every order to ensure better feelings when some of the eggs do not grow.

Here is some math for you. The buyer buys three eggs for $20 each, one develops and hatches. Total investment is $60, if you bought a nice mutation or Pied patterns you have a chick that is worth over $100. In a few months that bird is worth $200.

It is not about the number of viable eggs it is about the number of chicks for your investment. The breeder, the PO or UPS, and the customer all have a hand in the results and no one can totally blame the other.
 

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