Help determining sex of quail

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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to get some help determine the sex of my 2 quail that are around 8 weeks old. I initially suspected they were both male but have tried doing the foam test multiple times and nothing comes out. Please see attached photos.
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Vent sexing is tough, most especially in a sexually immature bird, once they are laying eggs or crowing easy peasy but until then, yeah. That’s why your Italian is nice, feather sexable!
 

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