Hen breathing noisily, wheezing, sneezing

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1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
Chestnut is a salmon faverolle who is about 10 months old. She is about 6-7 lbs, and does not feel significantly lighter or heavier than our other faverolles.
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
I came across her yesterday sneezing hard and gasping for breath. After the first ten minutes the intense sneezing stopped, but was replaced with some open mouth breathing and gasping when running (as I was trying to catch her to quarantine her at this point). Once she calmed down, her breathing was still ragged, although closed mouth. She still occasionally sneezes but it’s not a full blown sneeze, just a snuffle.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

A little over 24 hours.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?


No, which leads me to believe it’s not a respiratory disease. She’s lacking any sort of other symptoms, no runny nose or foamy eyes or swollen sinuses or coughing. Additionally, she is fully alert and not showing any fatigue except when she runs.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.


I have three theories: respiratory disease, worms, or something lodged somewhere. She’s only breathing weird and occaisonally snuffling, no other signs of disease. Additionally, the other chickens are showing no signs of disease, even though they pack together to sleep at night. In terms of worms, she is not gaping and struggling to breath like a chicken with gapeworms would, only wheezing when she runs or gets worked up. I don’t know if the early stages of gapeworm look as mild as this, but that would be my best guess as she has no other symptoms. Her breathing appears to be throat related, not nose related, I think. The morning this happened I did leave some extra oyster shell in their feed a few hours prior.


7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
She has been eating and drinking like normal. She is consuming pellets.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
She has some runny poop on her bottom, but it’s not extraordinarily loose. It could be from the stress of being quarantined.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Quarantining and waiting to see if her condition changes. She has been the same for 24 hours, but is becoming increasingly distressed as she is not allowed back with her flock. I am considering combining her back with the flock, but in case this ends up being a really bad respiratory disease in it’s beginning stages I do NOT want to risk the lives of my beloved pets.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
There is no poultry vet in our area. I want to acquire antibiotics but can’t due to them no longer being OTC. I’m going out today to get VetRx, and possibly safeguard as a precaution. (Better to have that on hand than not…)
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I will attempt to get a video of her breathing odd later, and look at her feces for signs of worms. I’m not quite sure how to attach videos on this forum anyway. Just keep in mind it sounds a little whistley, and when she complains her voice cracks.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pine bedding. Kind of dusty at the moment, but she is the only one experiencing problems of this sort.

Additionally, does anyone know if there’s a safe amount of time to keep her away from the flock to rule out some kind of disease? Poor girl is getting distressed from being away from her 2 roosters and I don’t want to unnecessarily stress her out if it’s something non contagious. Otherwise she has all the food water and treats she could ever need in her quarantine coop. Thank you in advance.
 
Sorry she's sick! Have you attempted to look in her nose/throat?
Also, vets can prescribe respiratory antibiotics in cases like this. Understandable if you're not willing to take her, but worth noting.
 
Sorry she's sick! Have you attempted to look in her nose/throat?
Also, vets can prescribe respiratory antibiotics in cases like this. Understandable if you're not willing to take her, but worth noting.
Thank you for replying. I looked in her throat and nose and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. No signs of gapeworm so I suppose that rules that out.
Unfortunately, it has gotten much worse. She’s now panting with her mouth open and has labored breathing. I now think it’s some kind of respiratory illness. She is making noises with her voice with every breath she takes. It’s not hot out or anything so it has to be her throat. Even though I isolated her 2 days ago, none of the chickens from the main group are showing any signs of illness. I’ve not attempted to sanitize any surfaces in there yet so this is puzzling; I feel like if she got it, everyone would get it.

Unfortunately our vet has said they can’t prescribe antibiotics for chickens, and they don’t know anyone in the region who takes chickens. I found a vet about 30min away that has an avian vet but I believe that this is for parrots, no mention of chickens at all. I’ll call when they open tomorrow but she’s getting worse by the hour.
 
Thank you for replying. I looked in her throat and nose and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. No signs of gapeworm so I suppose that rules that out.
Unfortunately, it has gotten much worse. She’s now panting with her mouth open and has labored breathing. I now think it’s some kind of respiratory illness. She is making noises with her voice with every breath she takes. It’s not hot out or anything so it has to be her throat. Even though I isolated her 2 days ago, none of the chickens from the main group are showing any signs of illness. I’ve not attempted to sanitize any surfaces in there yet so this is puzzling; I feel like if she got it, everyone would get it.

Unfortunately our vet has said they can’t prescribe antibiotics for chickens, and they don’t know anyone in the region who takes chickens. I found a vet about 30min away that has an avian vet but I believe that this is for parrots, no mention of chickens at all. I’ll call when they open tomorrow but she’s getting worse by the hour.
I’m sorry, I wish I was more help. I’ve never dealt with anything like this. It’s really tough to know how to help her with no distinct symptoms other than her breathing. I think the best you can do is keep her comfortable and if she makes it through the night, see what the Avian vet can do.
I no longer have chickens (damn coyotes) but when I did, vets were really hit or miss experiences. I had one who couldn’t even examine a young pullet’s sprained leg properly and prescribed us the wrong meds, and I had another who worked for hours to stitch up a bird whos rump (and subsequently, her laying organs) had been torn open by a predator (and she survived and continued laying!) It really depends on the vet.

Is she still eating/drinking at all?
 
I’m sorry, I wish I was more help. I’ve never dealt with anything like this. It’s really tough to know how to help her with no distinct symptoms other than her breathing. I think the best you can do is keep her comfortable and if she makes it through the night, see what the Avian vet can do.
I no longer have chickens (damn coyotes) but when I did, vets were really hit or miss experiences. I had one who couldn’t even examine a young pullet’s sprained leg properly and prescribed us the wrong meds, and I had another who worked for hours to stitch up a bird whos rump (and subsequently, her laying organs) had been torn open by a predator (and she survived and continued laying!) It really depends on the vet.

Is she still eating/drinking at all?
Thank you for replying. I looked in her throat and nose and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. No signs of gapeworm so I suppose that rules that out.
Unfortunately, it has gotten much worse. She’s now panting with her mouth open and has labored breathing. I now think it’s some kind of respiratory illness. She is making noises with her voice with every breath she takes. It’s not hot out or anything so it has to be her throat. Even though I isolated her 2 days ago, none of the chickens from the main group are showing any signs of illness. I’ve not attempted to sanitize any surfaces in there yet so this is puzzling; I feel like if she got it, everyone would get it.

Unfortunately our vet has said they can’t prescribe antibiotics for chickens, and they don’t know anyone in the region who takes chickens. I found a vet about 30min away that has an avian vet but I believe that this is for parrots, no mention of chickens at all. I’ll call when they open tomorrow but she’s getting worse by the hour.
You can always keep antibiotics on hand - JEDDS BIRD SUPPLIES.
That said, I've had really good luck using ivermectin regiment, as an antiviral combined with oregano oil added to food (combined with a carrier oil - I use coconut), VetRx (just rubbed on nose and beak), nutri drench and a day or two on canned dog food. It's easy for them to consume. Regarding the ivermectin you will have to decide how big of dose you are willing to risk and for how long. Warm epsom salt baths also help. I've used the eucalyptus salt without issue. I wouldn't do the bath if she's weak. Slippery Elm is also good with respitory issues. I use it for all my animals.
 
You can always keep antibiotics on hand - JEDDS BIRD SUPPLIES.
That said, I've had really good luck using ivermectin regiment, as an antiviral combined with oregano oil added to food (combined with a carrier oil - I use coconut), VetRx (just rubbed on nose and beak), nutri drench and a day or two on canned dog food. It's easy for them to consume. Regarding the ivermectin you will have to decide how big of dose you are willing to risk and for how long. Warm epsom salt baths also help. I've used the eucalyptus salt without issue. I wouldn't do the bath if she's weak. Slippery Elm is also good with respitory issues. I use it for all my animals.
Oh wow, I didn’t realize you could still buy bird antibiotics OTC! Thank you for the advice, I will give her wet cat food. She got better for a little bit in the middle of the day, but for whatever reason has started to decline again. Her actions are normal but she is wheezing and struggling. Unfortunately I don’t think they’ll arrive in time before whatever she has passes.

for anyone else in the thread, attached is a video of her breathing. It’s very odd. I haven’t seen breathing like this on any other “sick chicken” video.

 
I’m sorry, I wish I was more help. I’ve never dealt with anything like this. It’s really tough to know how to help her with no distinct symptoms other than her breathing. I think the best you can do is keep her comfortable and if she makes it through the night, see what the Avian vet can do.
I no longer have chickens (damn coyotes) but when I did, vets were really hit or miss experiences. I had one who couldn’t even examine a young pullet’s sprained leg properly and prescribed us the wrong meds, and I had another who worked for hours to stitch up a bird whos rump (and subsequently, her laying organs) had been torn open by a predator (and she survived and continued laying!) It really depends on the vet.

Is she still eating/drinking at all?
A friend confirmed for me that this avian vet does not take poultry, unfortunately. I found out I can still order antibiotics online, but I don’t think they’ll come quick enough. The best I can do at this point is hope she fights it off while giving her as much nutritious food and supplements as possible, and making sure I don’t cross contaminate with the rest of the flock.

Yes she is still eating and drinking. She ate some egg yolk and white earlier and perked up a bit, but is now in bad shape again. Her actions are pretty normal minus the wheezing and gasping, and her comb is still perked up, not at all drooped.
 
Daily update: she is now doing a lot better! Today she still wheezes if she engages in physical activity, but she is no longer wheezing as her main form of breathing, and it is never with an open mouth. Her voice still cracks when she complains and she is sneezing quite a bit, but she is no longer seriously ill. I just hope she will stay on the recovery path for the next few days.
Had a moment of panic with one of my other hens because she was breathing hard, but it turned out to be because both of her nostrils were filled with dirt. Cleaned that out and now she’s fine. Additionally, I also found out a backyard flock was infected with HPAI a county away a week ago, so I am going to be extra cautious (even though I know within 99% assurance it can’t be HPAI because she is in good shape now and nobody else has it).
 
She could possibly have MG or MS depending if she is outside or not. Depending on your state you should be able to contact someone with the state and request a test for MG, MS and ILT. If she happens to pass away sometimes you can take it to get a necropsy at the Animal Diagnostic Lab for your state. I hope she gets better
 
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
Chestnut is a salmon faverolle who is about 10 months old. She is about 6-7 lbs, and does not feel significantly lighter or heavier than our other faverolles.
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
I came across her yesterday sneezing hard and gasping for breath. After the first ten minutes the intense sneezing stopped, but was replaced with some open mouth breathing and gasping when running (as I was trying to catch her to quarantine her at this point). Once she calmed down, her breathing was still ragged, although closed mouth. She still occasionally sneezes but it’s not a full blown sneeze, just a snuffle.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

A little over 24 hours.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?


No, which leads me to believe it’s not a respiratory disease. She’s lacking any sort of other symptoms, no runny nose or foamy eyes or swollen sinuses or coughing. Additionally, she is fully alert and not showing any fatigue except when she runs.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.


I have three theories: respiratory disease, worms, or something lodged somewhere. She’s only breathing weird and occaisonally snuffling, no other signs of disease. Additionally, the other chickens are showing no signs of disease, even though they pack together to sleep at night. In terms of worms, she is not gaping and struggling to breath like a chicken with gapeworms would, only wheezing when she runs or gets worked up. I don’t know if the early stages of gapeworm look as mild as this, but that would be my best guess as she has no other symptoms. Her breathing appears to be throat related, not nose related, I think. The morning this happened I did leave some extra oyster shell in their feed a few hours prior.


7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
She has been eating and drinking like normal. She is consuming pellets.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
She has some runny poop on her bottom, but it’s not extraordinarily loose. It could be from the stress of being quarantined.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Quarantining and waiting to see if her condition changes. She has been the same for 24 hours, but is becoming increasingly distressed as she is not allowed back with her flock. I am considering combining her back with the flock, but in case this ends up being a really bad respiratory disease in it’s beginning stages I do NOT want to risk the lives of my beloved pets.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
There is no poultry vet in our area. I want to acquire antibiotics but can’t due to them no longer being OTC. I’m going out today to get VetRx, and possibly safeguard as a precaution. (Better to have that on hand than not…)
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I will attempt to get a video of her breathing odd later, and look at her feces for signs of worms. I’m not quite sure how to attach videos on this forum anyway. Just keep in mind it sounds a little whistley, and when she complains her voice cracks.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pine bedding. Kind of dusty at the moment, but she is the only one experiencing problems of this sort.

Additionally, does anyone know if there’s a safe amount of time to keep her away from the flock to rule out some kind of disease? Poor girl is getting distressed from being away from her 2 roosters and I don’t want to unnecessarily stress her out if it’s something non contagious. Otherwise she has all the food water and treats she could ever need in her quarantine coop. Thank you in advance.
Just went through something similar and it ended up being cancor. .
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
Chestnut is a salmon faverolle who is about 10 months old. She is about 6-7 lbs, and does not feel significantly lighter or heavier than our other faverolles.
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
I came across her yesterday sneezing hard and gasping for breath. After the first ten minutes the intense sneezing stopped, but was replaced with some open mouth breathing and gasping when running (as I was trying to catch her to quarantine her at this point). Once she calmed down, her breathing was still ragged, although closed mouth. She still occasionally sneezes but it’s not a full blown sneeze, just a snuffle.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

A little over 24 hours.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?


No, which leads me to believe it’s not a respiratory disease. She’s lacking any sort of other symptoms, no runny nose or foamy eyes or swollen sinuses or coughing. Additionally, she is fully alert and not showing any fatigue except when she runs.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.


I have three theories: respiratory disease, worms, or something lodged somewhere. She’s only breathing weird and occaisonally snuffling, no other signs of disease. Additionally, the other chickens are showing no signs of disease, even though they pack together to sleep at night. In terms of worms, she is not gaping and struggling to breath like a chicken with gapeworms would, only wheezing when she runs or gets worked up. I don’t know if the early stages of gapeworm look as mild as this, but that would be my best guess as she has no other symptoms. Her breathing appears to be throat related, not nose related, I think. The morning this happened I did leave some extra oyster shell in their feed a few hours prior.


7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
She has been eating and drinking like normal. She is consuming pellets.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
She has some runny poop on her bottom, but it’s not extraordinarily loose. It could be from the stress of being quarantined.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Quarantining and waiting to see if her condition changes. She has been the same for 24 hours, but is becoming increasingly distressed as she is not allowed back with her flock. I am considering combining her back with the flock, but in case this ends up being a really bad respiratory disease in it’s beginning stages I do NOT want to risk the lives of my beloved pets.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
There is no poultry vet in our area. I want to acquire antibiotics but can’t due to them no longer being OTC. I’m going out today to get VetRx, and possibly safeguard as a precaution. (Better to have that on hand than not…)
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I will attempt to get a video of her breathing odd later, and look at her feces for signs of worms. I’m not quite sure how to attach videos on this forum anyway. Just keep in mind it sounds a little whistley, and when she complains her voice cracks.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pine bedding. Kind of dusty at the moment, but she is the only one experiencing problems of this sort.

Additionally, does anyone know if there’s a safe amount of time to keep her away from the flock to rule out some kind of disease? Poor girl is getting distressed from being away from her 2 roosters and I don’t want to unnecessarily stress her out if it’s something non contagious. Otherwise she has all the food water and treats she could ever need in her quarantine coop. Thank you in advance.
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
Chestnut is a salmon faverolle who is about 10 months old. She is about 6-7 lbs, and does not feel significantly lighter or heavier than our other faverolles.
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
I came across her yesterday sneezing hard and gasping for breath. After the first ten minutes the intense sneezing stopped, but was replaced with some open mouth breathing and gasping when running (as I was trying to catch her to quarantine her at this point). Once she calmed down, her breathing was still ragged, although closed mouth. She still occasionally sneezes but it’s not a full blown sneeze, just a snuffle.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

A little over 24 hours.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?


No, which leads me to believe it’s not a respiratory disease. She’s lacking any sort of other symptoms, no runny nose or foamy eyes or swollen sinuses or coughing. Additionally, she is fully alert and not showing any fatigue except when she runs.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.


I have three theories: respiratory disease, worms, or something lodged somewhere. She’s only breathing weird and occaisonally snuffling, no other signs of disease. Additionally, the other chickens are showing no signs of disease, even though they pack together to sleep at night. In terms of worms, she is not gaping and struggling to breath like a chicken with gapeworms would, only wheezing when she runs or gets worked up. I don’t know if the early stages of gapeworm look as mild as this, but that would be my best guess as she has no other symptoms. Her breathing appears to be throat related, not nose related, I think. The morning this happened I did leave some extra oyster shell in their feed a few hours prior.


7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
She has been eating and drinking like normal. She is consuming pellets.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
She has some runny poop on her bottom, but it’s not extraordinarily loose. It could be from the stress of being quarantined.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Quarantining and waiting to see if her condition changes. She has been the same for 24 hours, but is becoming increasingly distressed as she is not allowed back with her flock. I am considering combining her back with the flock, but in case this ends up being a really bad respiratory disease in it’s beginning stages I do NOT want to risk the lives of my beloved pets.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
There is no poultry vet in our area. I want to acquire antibiotics but can’t due to them no longer being OTC. I’m going out today to get VetRx, and possibly safeguard as a precaution. (Better to have that on hand than not…)
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I will attempt to get a video of her breathing odd later, and look at her feces for signs of worms. I’m not quite sure how to attach videos on this forum anyway. Just keep in mind it sounds a little whistley, and when she complains her voice cracks.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pine bedding. Kind of dusty at the moment, but she is the only one experiencing problems of this sort.

Additionally, does anyone know if there’s a safe amount of time to keep her away from the flock to rule out some kind of disease? Poor girl is getting distressed from being away from her 2 roosters and I don’t want to unnecessarily stress her out if it’s something non contagious. Otherwise she has all the food water and treats she could ever need in her quarantine coop. Thank you in advance.
Just went through this. Does she have mucus in mouth? After 3 weeks mine ended up having canker. Mine free range and wild birds always in drinking water. I get all my meds through a pigeon supplier. Super reliable and meds for every illness. Pigeon supplies plus. Anti fungal and antibiotics. Very reliable with shipping fast too. Good luck.
 

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