Need some advice on Java's

[peafowlmom]

I went to buy a 1 1/2 yr old cock yesterday but the breeder couldn't catch him so he sold me his 5 yr. old breeder. Well, this baby has got huge spurs. I have to get him a female. Should I look for another java, or should I try pairing him with another an India Blue, if so what color. Can someone give me some advice on how to proceed with my newly acquired male.? Any links maybe that I should read? I jumped on this one, so any advice or you must read this about Java's would greatly be appreciated! Thanks ahead of time. Have a good weekend.

 

[zazouse]

Go with what you can find that will give you time to locate the other color if you want it too.
Where is the photo?

you know i must have a photo , but if i forgot to mention it to you before, well i would love to see a photo of him.

 

[Lil Zoo]

We are suppose to have a java peachick but since I can't see much difference in the other we do have possibly two. I haven't found a lot of information except they aren't as friendly as your blue varieties (which my chicks aren't). They are very flighty, no matter how I try to bribe them they want absolutely nothing to do with me.

Info I have found. They take about twice the aviary that the blues require. They should not be allowed to free range. They can get aggressive with their care giver. They are larger than the blue varieties. The peahens are almost as colorful as the peacock. They need warm shelter in the winter.
If you gather better or more information please keep me informed. The pictures I seen are absolutely stunning but I am not fond of chicken roosters that attach, so they might not be a match for us, time will tell.

I also ran across an ebayer saying the majority of greens sold today were not true java but some sort of spalding mix. The professionals will have to kick in here as what I read was totally confusing to me as a learning peacocks newbie.

 

[MinxFox]

Yes you have to watch out for spaldings. A spalding is a cross between a green peafowl and an India blue peafowl. These hybrids are fertile. They make it hard to find pure green peafowl because what happens is you have some people who don't know what they have exactly so they will call it a green peafowl when really it is a spalding. Spaldings tend to be more of a greenish blue color. Some have slight scaled neck feathers and will tend to be a bit larger than a blue and taller, also they might have yellow on their face and a tight crest on their head.

I am pretty busy now to add some new peafowl, but I still really want some green peafowl. I am thinking that I want the Indo-Chinese green. There are at least three green subspecies. The Java is the most popular but not all green peafowl are Javas...Another problem...Mixing all the different subspecies. Javanese, Indo-Chinese, and Burmese greens all have their own look. Javas are the most popular probably because they are most brilliant. I like the Indo-Chinese because even though they are second brilliant, they tend to have more of a golden look to their feathers which is just very beautiful to me. The Burmese are the least brilliant.

I want greens so badly but I also want some pure ones that meet all of what I am looking for. It has taken me a long time to figure out just what I would look for in some green peafowl...Height is a big thing to look for...They will be very tall, more slender looking then blues, not much blue shine at all except around the head, a very tight crest (although some of the hens will have crests not that tight, that is okay), a peahen must be very colorful. I have seen some websites with a photo of one of their 'green peahens'. You could tell by all the plain brown all over her that she was a spalding. A true green peahen will have some green feathers in her tail and will be very close in color to the male.

Anyways I guess I have been rather crazy about green peafowl for a while now so I could go on and on...Here is some good stuff to look at:

Here is a good overview about getting yourself into keeping green peafowl:
http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/Pavo Muticus Article.htm

For some photos of all three varieties look here and click on green peafowl:
http://www.pavo-muticus-muticus.de/english/index.html

Here is another website with great info on green peafowl. Click on the green peafowl images to find more about them and see a photo gallery:
http://www.pfauenfarm.de/Home-English/Our-Peafowl/our-peafowl.html

Oh and you may have noticed that both of these places are not in the US. There are some great green peafowl breeders in Europe and in other places and some of the best green peafowl here in the US are imported from overseas or are the product of some imports. Those birds are by far my favorites.

Here is an article talking about determining if a green is pure or not:
http://www.pavo-muticus.com/english/among-breeders/artenvergleich.html

Here is how to tell the difference between a green peacock and a green peahen:
http://www.galliform.es/home/information/green-peacock-or-peahen

This is about green peafowl husbandry:
http://www.galliform.es/home/information/green-peafowl-husbandry

This shows how to identify hybrid peafowl AKA Spaldings:
http://www.galliform.es/home/information/identifying-hybrid-peafowl



Those are some of my favorite links but I have more if you want to see other sites with pictures and things.

Some green peacocks are said to be mean, but that is mainly durring the breeding season. I think as long as when they are chicks you don't cuddle with them too much you should be fine. I know what you mean about flighty peachicks. When they get older and you get them out into a larger pen they should calm down and should probably start to see you as being okay. It is definately not recomended to free range green peafowl because they can range so much further than blues and can be more flighty but some people have done it before. I mainly think they raised them up from chicks though. Green peafowl are endangered so it makes it even more special to breed them and keep them. I just think they are so beautiful. Some may be spooky though. From what I have read it seems a lot of people have some greens that are tame just like their blues but some are very flighty and spooky. I guess their personality varies. I hope you all got some good greens.

Oh and I would love to see photos of your greens! I can never see too many photos of peafowl, let alone green peafowl!

 

[clinton9]

Be careful in choose pure green peafowls, in case you might get hybrids between spalding peafowls and green peafowls.

Give yourseft plently of time to explame the plumages & faces of green peafowls as well as spalding peafowls.

See subspecies of pure green peafowls below










pavo imperator tonkinensis






pavo annamensis bokorensis
pavo muticus muticus
pavo spicifer spicifer







pavo javanensis javanensis




pavo imperator siamensis



pavo annamensis annamensis


Watch out for hybrid ...spaldling peafowl below...a mixture of Indian blue peafowl and green peafowl. Too many hybrids peafowls and too few pure green peafowls in USA.






Do not be tricked into buy the Jade peafowl that look like green peafowl but is a spalding between spalding peafowl and green peafowl.

Research the plumages of pure green peafowls first before buy the birds.

 

[peafowlmom]

WELL, I WILL GET A PICTURE. I ASKED REPEATEDLY IF HE WAS PURE JAVA. THE FELLA SAID YES. I HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR A RIDE A FEW TIME, QUITE GULLIBLE I AM. MY HUSND AND I LOVE THE PICTURES ABOVE. RIGHT NOW THIS FELLA DOESN'T HAVE A TRAIN BUT HOPEFULLY A GOOD HEAD SHOT AND SOMEONE CAN IDENTIFY. THANKS GUYS. YOU ARE ALL GREAT PEOPLE.

 

[peafowlmom]

 

[peafowlmom]

I TAKE HORRIBLE PICTURES AND THE DARN THING WAS SET ON EASY!!!! HOPE THESE WORK. IF NOT I WILL TRY AGAIN. THANKS EVERYONE

 

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[peafowlmom]

YES, I KNOW , I NEED TO CLEAN MY PENS. I JUST SAW A PIECE OF PLASTIC IN THE NEXT PEN.

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IN THE SOUTH, I LIVE OUTSIDE OF CHARLESTON, SC, IF THEY NEED EXTRA HEAT. WHAT TEMP DO THEY NEED HEAT, I GUESS WOULD BE THE SMART QUESTION