nest bowl size?

[cochinGurl]

BACK STORY:
ive had these two pigeons for a while now and wernt planning on letting them breed at first. but, well, of corse...along came Uno the "oops" baby. like i said, i wasnt planing on them rearing young, so the nest i gave them isn't good to raise young in,it is fine for them to sit on with their fake eggs, but not to actualy have babies in. well along came uno and they had this small nest...i think they stepped on him because this morning i found an puncture that looks like from a toenail. about half an hour ago i found him dead. he was born on the first, short life

but i'm going to let them try again, but im gonna have to change things.
so sorry 4 the long boring back story that prolly wasnt nessisary...
ACTUAL QUESTION: how big should the nest bowl be? how deep, what diameter, ect. thanks so much for taking the time to read this, also what do you guys use for nesting material?
--thanks--

 

[larrylofts]

I Use Plastic Dog Food Bowls From Dollar Store Put Shaveings And Pine Needles . A Nest Should Be Were The Baby Can,t Fall Out And The Parents Can Walk In Too The Nest. With Just One Pair Of Birds You Do Not Have To Worry About Other Birds Fighting For Nest You Don, T Have The Chickens With Them This Could Cause Problems.

 

[cochinGurl]

thanks so much! does it matter what kind of shavings? ive heard ceder can cause problems.

 

[Lofty Dreams]

I havent heard about cedar I use hay as my nesting material it's acording to me easy to keep clean

 

[larrylofts]

Pine Shaveings Heard The Same About Cedar Shaveings Have Used Hay And Will Use It But Pine Needles Work Well And The Hay Cost Pine Needles Are Free

 

[cochinGurl]

i think ill use hay, cuz pine trees are realy far away form where I live

does hay work as well as pine needles?

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

Pine and cedar can be toxic if there's no ventilation in the loft/cages. Especially if there's a lot of fine dust that they can breathe in. But if your place has ventilation like it should (ventilation is very important in keeping pigeons healthy), then they won't cause a problem. I use wood shavings as bedding and have seen no problems. I've used pine, cedar, or whatever else we happen to make (dad planes a lot of wood, which makes perfect shavings). Right now I'm using Cherry shavings. The shop class at school had bags and bags of shavings they needed to get rid of, so I took them! That's why it's Cherry. I guess they used it a lot in their projects. The whithered leaves and pits of cherries are deadly to birds when eaten, but the wood itself is fine. So I'm happy

 

[amrose]

I use pine straw but have heard tobacco stems are good. They prevent bugs. You can order from pigeon web sites.

 

[cochinGurl]

awesome1 thanks so much everyone for all the info.