okay Smartie Pigeon people what colors? Weird bird

[monarc23]

This bird I'm pretty sure is a hen, which is besides the point... but anyhow, I assume she's a just not nicely marked bird but just curious what you have to say abouther... her one wing is colored, her other is completley white, and she's got white on her chest....

OH MY GOSH....AND...because of these pictures i just realized her colored wing side her eye is dark (not solid black black with red ring it looks like), and on the white wing side her eye is normal!

that's so neat! LOL!

And what is this cuties color called? I know it's eyes are the wrong color which is no biggie just curious what this color is called he looks just like many of the wild pigeons I see:

 

[Okla-doodle-doo]

I would call them ash reds. Pigeon colors are really hard to pin down,everyone seems to have different names for the same colors!

 

[FrChuckW]

I would call them Barred Ash Reds, however the hen is what I would call a half-sider barred Ash Red. If it is a hen, then you might want to pair her up with different cock birds(if you have them) to see which produces the best looking offspring.

I would start with the bird you have her with at first and see what that produces. If she is showing a red eye on one side and a dark on the other, she may be carrying the albino gene, or dark eyed clear white gene or even the grizle gene.

In the F1 hatch, depending on the cock bird you breed her to,she should produce normal colored squabs. When those squabs are old enough to breed, put the son back to the mother, and the daughter to the father and see what that produces. Unless you wind up with two squabs of the same sex that is. Then pair the better of the two to the opposite sex parent.

If the cock bird is a bar and the hen is a check then any checks that appear will be males and any bars that appear will be hens. They tend to take on the coloring of the opposite sex parent.

 

[monarc23]

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wow that's really neat information there thank you!!!

My only issue is i've only gotten one egg since i got them weeks ago...but ehy are collecting nest materials and making impressioins in their nestboxes so im hoping soon!

 

[FrChuckW]

They usually lay eggs about 36 hours apart, they will not set until both eggs are laid. They will continue collecting nesting material until then, and then even after that the cock bird will bring material to the hen once she starts to set. The hen will sit on the eggs from late afternoon until mid morning, then the cock bird will usually sit on the nest during the day so the hen can go eat, drink, sunbathe, or what ever. If you know someone who smokes, take some of the tobacco and sprinkle it in the nest, it will help control mites.

Pigeons are terrible nest builders by the way, so I use clay nest bowls for my birds for support. Once the second egg is laid, setting will begin in earnest and aboiut 18 days later you should have two little squeakers if both eggs are fertile. If the eggs are infertile you might want to trim the vent feathers on both, and also trim back the hood feathers so that they can readily feed the babies.

 

[nzpouter]

cock bird is mealy/ ash red bar, hen brown bar. Cock bird doesn't seem to have any black flecks (homozygous for BA), all male chicks hatch from the mating will be ash red bar carrying brown (you'll see teh flecks), all female chick will be ash red bar.

males BA/b, females BA/-.....

of course it all changes if the cock bird is BA/+.

The split eye.. the pseudo pearl on one side is due to brown, the bull eye is caused by the bald head pattern..

 

[rittert3]

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used to know of a pigeon supply company that sold small bails or bundles of tobacco (stalks i think) you might try to search it if your really wanting to get into these birds. also make sure to feed whole corn instead of cracked in your feed, i was told this was why i never had much luck breeding. also need to make sure your hens get their Calcium i had a hen that laid several clutches but the shells were always very thin i think a fine oyster shell would work on pigeons. chuck if you have any input on that info it is more than welcome and hope it is helpful to OP

 

[monarc23]

speaking of feeding, I'm feeding them 22% game bird starter (its what I feed all my birds) I'm wondering if this is why im waiting so long for eggs maybe the hens arent able to produce any. I do have oystershell though so I will deffinatly be taking a bowl of that up to them today to free choice on. As for tobacco.....hum.... haha would taking my moms yucky *after smoked* cigg buds work?

If so that'll be funny up in their crates

I DID have one pigeon with mites on one feather I removed the whole feather and distroyed it.... I haven't seen mites since but obviously they are around I was kind of disgusted.... I had no clue what I could buy for them to prevent this in the future, so tobacco will do the trick?

Thank you so much you guys on the colors of my birds, it's very facinating to learn

Actually this hen that's got the funky eyes, she's nesting in a plastic critter carrier in an over turned giant plastic tote...she picked the location not me...lol they have free roam of my one barn. now if only she'd lay some eggs in it

Oddly enough her "mate" isn't bringing in any nesting material, I did put aspen bedding in the bottom of the tote and added a thick layer to the plastic critter carrier and they really seem to enjoy that.

Should i get them wild bird seed? Anything else I should be feeding them? I feel like a bad mama but I was relaly having trouble finding feeding info on them they really seem to enjoy the game bird feed.

 

[ThiefPouter06]

Most pigeon guys will dust there birds a few times a year to keep away the feather mites. Sevin dust works quite well, although there are many pigeon specific products available. Whenever you deal with marked birds (those with white markings) you have a battle going on. That is for white to dominate the future offspring or colored feathers to dominate. Pigeon markings are unstable. So for example if breed two perfectly marked capuchines together you can get overly white or overly colored offspring. If you pair up two birds with too much white the young will have even more white, eventually being totally white many generations later. Most breeders will take a bird with a little too much white and breed it to one with not enough white. Although you will still get a wide variety this usually produces the least "culls".

 

[ThiefPouter06]

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I use chicken scratch grain and then buy a few bags of dry lentils from walmart. You can also add safflower. What is very important is grit. I never scrimp on grit. Red pigeon health grit is the best. It has vitamins, trace minerals and calcium that they need. It usually costs about 18 dollars a bag and it lasts forever. If you cant get it at least get them some chicken grit. Without it their eggs shells will be thin and fragile.