Rooster overmating one hen

Altairsky

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I know this topic has been discussed many times, but my situation is different.
Most of the discussed scenarios were about a rooster terrorizing one hen and forcing her to mate.
In my case this hen is absolutely consenting and she loves the rooster, and she's always with him.

My rooster is 10 months old so he's still a cockerel. He mates with all the hens but he always had a preference for his sister.
Now all the older hens are molting and he doesn't mate with non laying hens. He didn't even mate with his sister before she was close to maturity.
He's a gentleman, and he doesn't even chase the hens if they don't want to mate.

But now that most hens are molting, he is really ruining his favorite's feathers. She's not hurt or anything, but all her back feathers are broken (broken, not pulled).
Another issue is that he's 3 kg, and the hen he overmates is just 1 kg. But again, she wants it.

Now, culling him is an option, but it would be a shame because he's a great rooster in every other aspect. He's really loving and caring of all his girls, and he always come running as soon as one makes a distress noise. He keeps peace in the flock and he's ready to fight even dogs. He doesn't even allow house sparrows in the coop.

Just to let you know how good he is, here is a story (you can skip this paragraph). When all the old hens stopped laying for molt time, I decided that I wanted to train the pullets to lay on the upper nest boxes (I need a speleological license to harvest on the bottom nest where the lazy old hens always laid.) So I removed the fake eggs and put them all on the upper nestbox. When this pullet (a faverolles EE) realized the fake eggs were gone, she went completely insane. She needed to lay but she didn't want to lay on the upper nests. The rooster immediately understood the issue and he started to look for an alternative nesting spot. I found him and her both squeezed behind the litter balls and farming tools, with the rooster trying to convince his favorite hen to lay there. They were really cute! Obviously the hen got kicked back in the coop and I gave up for the day and put the fake eggs down so she could lay. She now lays up, btw, because when it comes to animal training, I always finish what I start.

Last resort would be culling him and hatch another male from her favorite's hen eggs. It would be smaller then him most likely therefore causing less problems with the hens of smaller breeds.

I ordered a couple of saddles and they will arrive next month, if she accepts a saddle that would be a temporary fix until the other hens start laying again.
Would trimming the rooster's nails improve the situation? Any other idea?
The birds free range all day. Lately I'm letting out just the rooster and the old molting hens, so the laying pullets will have a break from the rooster at least for the morning. Then in the afternoon I let everyone out.
I really hope this behavior will stop when the other hens are back to laying because it would really be a shame to cull my legbar rooster. An EE rooster wouldn't be the same for my reproduction needs but my faverolles EE has priority because she's too sweet to rehome. Below is a picture of her before the overmating, and a video of how she is now. She's the salmon EE.
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She looks miserable in this one because it's been raining the whole week, keep that in mind. But as you can see, her comb is beautiful. He tries his best to not hurt her but still he breaks feathers.
 
x2 She may have relatively poor feathers, and that may change with next moult. And he may get better with time and experience as well as more options as other birds come out of moult. If they were my birds, and she was happy with the situation, as you describe, I would just let them get on with it and not intervene. He looks and sounds like a good cockerel and potential flock master.
 
Another issue is that he's 3 kg, and the hen he overmates is just 1 kg.
Nature took care of this. When they mate the hen flattens on the ground. That gets the rooster's weight into the ground through her body, not just through her legs. The more weight difference the more the risk but this doesn't sound too bad to me.
 
While I have a lot less experience than the previous posters, I would still put a word of caution. I've had a very similar situation with a runt 1 kg pullet in love with her bigger brother who weighs 3.5 kg, and she ended up badly wounded. Because she loved him she never refused or ran from him, and because she was very weary of humans, I didn't notice there was a problem until the wound was old and pretty bad. Then it took months to heal, with weeks keeping her crated and separated from the flock, which was a very depressing period for her.

I don't mean at all to say you should separate your hen and your rooster. But I think it would be wise to check regularly that your hen doesn't get wounded under the wings, if she can be held.
An easy thing to watch without handling her is if the top of the wing feathers lose all their down, then they can't protect the skin as well anymore. It's not the case on your hen whose feathers don't seem that damaged.
 
Original plan: make your own heavy weight green eggers.
- Get a big cream legbar rooster, Lionata hens (local large dual purpose heritage breed that goes broody easily and lays pink).
- Start with just the hens: Let the hens raise their brood - including the legbar boy- , no incubator hassle.
- Accidentally finds a free incubator
"well let's try it out then!"
Only free eggs available are bantams.
"no way I'm gonna keep bantams. I want big, fat birds. I'll sell them all"
- Keeps 2 bantams.
"No way I'm gonna keep a flighty bird!"
- one of the 2 bantams flies like a rocket up to 3 meters in height
"No way I'm gonna keep a foot feathered chicken. They make me cringe"
- Keeps a 90% faverolles EE.

Chicken math I guess.

Now one of the bantam that was supposed to lay blue, lays mint green instead. I even lost my purpose in life :lau
 
Salmon Faverolles have very fluffy and soft feathers that break easily. A chicken saddle will help and prevent their equally soft and delicate skin from breaking.

In addition a nice rooster/cockerel pedicure can help as well: clip the nails and file them in a round shape so no more sharp points or edges will be left. The middle toe tends to have sharp edges on the inner side.
Check the spurs too and file off any sharp points.
 
Original plan: make your own heavy weight green eggers.
- Get a big cream legbar rooster, Lionata hens (local large dual purpose heritage breed that goes broody easily and lays pink).
- Start with just the hens: Let the hens raise their brood - including the legbar boy- , no incubator hassle.
- Accidentally finds a free incubator
"well let's try it out then!"
Only free eggs available are bantams.
"no way I'm gonna keep bantams. I want big, fat birds. I'll sell them all"
- Keeps 2 bantams.
"No way I'm gonna keep a flighty bird!"
- one of the 2 bantams flies like a rocket up to 3 meters in height
"No way I'm gonna keep a foot feathered chicken. They make me cringe"
- Keeps a 90% faverolles EE.

Chicken math I guess.

Now one of the bantam that was supposed to lay blue, lays mint green instead. I even lost my purpose in life :lau
I've been wanting a flock of cream legbars for years but every time I've tried to purchase them the sexed pullets weren't available on the ship dates I wanted or they were only available as straight run lol
I settled for leghorns last year but I finally found some this year.They didn't have any spring ship dates but they had some available this fall.
Hatching chicks gets a lot more complicated so I dare not go there yet lol
 
I've been wanting a flock of cream legbars for years but every time I've tried to purchase them the sexed pullets weren't available on the ship dates I wanted or they were only available as straight run lol
I settled for leghorns last year but I finally found some this year.They didn't have any spring ship dates but they had some available this fall.
Hatching chicks gets a lot more complicated so I dare not go there yet lol
Hatching eggs are easy after you study up and get guidance from the members here.

Get motivated and try, it's a great learning experience. Plus the chicks imprint on you instantly.
 
I definitely wouldn't cull him in this case, he seems to be a perfect gentleman and the hen just seems to be particularly amorous, not his fault at all. I'd just put a saddle on her, trim the roo's spurs and let them be happy together
 

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