Silver Duckwing Phoenix?? Thoughts....

[Lovesdisney]

We went to an auction today.... We have enough chickens, but I guess chicken math always wins. My daughter *had* to have a few of the lots we saw. Some were polish.... while pretty, they went higher than her price range (she buys her own chickens, she is 8 yrs old.... mom feeds them, but she has to purchase them). So she fell for a trio of what was marked "young silver duckwing pheonix". I had no idea, but another man there had his flashlight and since he bid against her on the pair, he was obviously convinced they were pretty nice birds too. I preferred she have the pair, but alas they went to high. She got the trio. So I have done some searches and they appear to be labeled correctly......

Feedback on the quality of these birds? She only shows at local fairs.... so the competition isn't so stiff.... but I would still like to know if we did ok. I snapped a few pics with my phone as we moved them in to a coop to themselves for awhile. They aren't the best photos, but will have to do for now! Thanks!!

 

[nicalandia]

I don't breed Phoenix but I'll tell you this much, "they are Silver Duckwing Phoenix" alright, and look very nice.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I do, bantam phoenix and d'anvers are my specialty.
I agree they are phoenix and are silver dw.

The legs are correct color, combs are right, ear lobes should be solid white though, look red from what I can tell. Cant tell with the wing open like that but the triangle white patch on the wing that makes them a duckwing , does it make a nice solid triangle patch when folded? Often lower quality birds will have broken patterns to this area.
If that's good, then the ear lobe color is the only flaw I see with him.

Male looks to have the begining of a nice tail and saddles, time will tell on that as to just how long they will get.

When you catch him up again, spread the feathers apart on the tail and look at the base of the quills. They should be in blood feather for close to 10 months at least.
They will look blue. If they are white, he's in hard feather already and is what he will be lenght wise.

The pullet looks great with everything but that ear lobe color again.

But if county fairs are it, she should still do well with either bird. Those arent to heavy a deduction at that level.

All in all, for some picked up at auction, they arent too bad at all.

Not sure what you paid for them, but really good phoenix from top lines, espcially bantam often go way over $100 each... so count yourself lucky on finding some nice ones !

 

[Lovesdisney]

Oh yaaay!! She paid $11/bird, $33 total. I think she did well regardless. There are 2 hens they look similar but they were all pretty unhappy today and since Birds were registered yesterday we were more concerned with getting them settled and watered/fed. We may get them out for treats and attempt better pics tomorrow.

Thanks so much for your thoughtful post and more of what to look for! Now let's hope for sunshine tomorrow

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

oh yea
Yall did good there, my day olds sell for that, some colors even more...

 

[Lovesdisney]

Thanks again boggy bottom! Here are some pictures from this morning. I thought the white area in the middle of the red is the earlobe?? When he is perched his wings have a white triangle. I looked at his tail more closely. It looks almost like big long pin feathers at the base of his tail but its blueish purple color. There were also more coming in. I tried again to get better pics but when he is perched I couldnt get it and when we hold him he is unsettled.... so here is my best effort.

We gave them some scratch this morning and they looked at us blankly.... poor fellas. They have to learn to be spoiled

thanks again for your very thoughtful post and feedback....

 

[Gresh]

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Wow, show quality or not, that's one beautiful rooster, sir!

 

[nicalandia]

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the boys seems Red, but the girl seem to have some white in them.

 

[Lovesdisney]

Their ear loves all are white but have red speckles or wrinkles or something. None are solid white.
We love them red earlobes and all... I guess the rest of them seems ok??

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep better pic, wings are right...no the ear lobes on neither are right, while they have a touch of white, they are what is called pink in phoenix.

The big fleshy area behind the wattle just behind the jaw should be all white and solid white, not red with a white center. They should produce some correct chicks though, they just have red lobed lines in them from something generations back.

Here's some of my young bantam for comparison so you can see what I mean. Like I said, it's no big deal, that being all that's wrong is minimal