Spoke to Elanco regarding Elector PSP

[Lelilamom]

So I called and spoke to a veterinarian at Elanco Animal Health regarding Elector PSP. This is the information I received on the product, usage and effectiveness.

In an uncontrolled environment, Elector PSP lasts on a properly sprayed chicken for 5-7 days. This means for birds kept in a non sterile structure (what coop is sterile?!) with access to the outside and other chickens.

There is no benefit to applying Elector PSP at night as opposed to the day. As long as the skin is soaked.

Bugs will die for up to 7 days after application, again in an uncontrolled environment. Reapplication after 7 days is safe, after 14 days it's recommended.

Elector PSP was not tested as a dip so the company cannot legally recommend dipping or dosage in that application. Only fine mist spray was tested.

Elector PSP can be safely applied to healthy chicks. There is no age minimum.

Unopened and properly stored, the shelf life of the product is up to 5 years. Properly stored, opened container will last approx 3 years. The product must be shaken very well if left unused for a long period of time.

Good luck Mite Fighters! It's been a horrible year so far.

 

[BalancedRock]

good information

 

[wkshaddon]

So I called and spoke to a veterinarian at Elanco Animal Health regarding Elector PSP. This is the information I received on the product, usage and effectiveness.

In an uncontrolled environment, Elector PSP lasts on a properly sprayed chicken for 5-7 days. This means for birds kept in a non sterile structure (what coop is sterile?!) with access to the outside and other chickens.

There is no benefit to applying Elector PSP at night as opposed to the day. As long as the skin is soaked.

Bugs will die for up to 7 days after application, again in an uncontrolled environment. Reapplication after 7 days is safe, after 14 days it's recommended.

Elector PSP was not tested as a dip so the company cannot legally recommend dipping or dosage in that application. Only fine mist spray was tested.

Elector PSP can be safely applied to healthy chicks. There is no age minimum.

Unopened and properly stored, the shelf life of the product is up to 5 years. Properly stored, opened container will last approx 3 years. The product must be shaken very well if left unused for a long period of time.

Good luck Mite Fighters! It's been a horrible year so far.

So you said as long as the skin is soaked, yet was only tested as a fine mist spray. Is that because lice are only found on the skin and not feathers? So they won't say if the dilution amount differs if you dip instead of spray? Darn, I wish they had tested it as a dip cause spraying each chicken is very time consuming.

 

[Lelilamom]

So you said as long as the skin is soaked, yet was only tested as a fine mist spray. Is that because lice are only found on the skin and not feathers? So they won't say if the dilution amount differs if you dip instead of spray? Darn, I wish they had tested it as a dip cause spraying each chicken is very time consuming.

That's what they said - as long as you get the fine mist spray on their skin. I asked what the requirements were for testing and the chemist didn't know, it was during R&D and she wasn't in the company at that time. Only that fine mist spray was the only application type that was tested. Another chemist I spoke to at the time reiterated that same information.

My guess is that Lice, Mites, Flies, etc walk on and bite the skin and elector has to get onto the bug's body or in mouth to kill them. According to the folks I spoke to at Elanco, the bug has to touch the substance to be affected. Maybe that's also the reason why the directions specifically state not to use in a fogger. Or maybe that's for respiratory reasons.

 

[wkshaddon]

That's what they said - as long as you get the fine mist spray on their skin. I asked what the requirements were for testing and the chemist didn't know, it was during R&D and she wasn't in the company at that time. Only that fine mist spray was the only application type that was tested. Another chemist I spoke to at the time reiterated that same information.

My guess is that Lice, Mites, Flies, etc walk on and bite the skin and elector has to get onto the bug's body or in mouth to kill them. According to the folks I spoke to at Elanco, the bug has to touch the substance to be affected. Maybe that's also the reason why the directions specifically state not to use in a fogger. Or maybe that's for respiratory reasons.

I think I'll try it as a dip on a few chickens q1ddddsince it's gonna be really hot today they will dry fast and let you know how it goes.

 

[Colorful egg carton]

I contacted ELANCO on for chicken data about 10 months ago and they told me they have no data and no recommendation. I will have to check again if the study has been published, approval and dosing are now available.

 

[Colorful egg carton]

I contacted ELANCO on for chicken data about 10 months ago and they told me they have no data and no recommendation. I will have to check again if the study has been published, approval and dosing are now available.

Update: I looked for new approvals and didn't find anything so called ELANCO and this may be where the confusion lies....it is approved for NORTHERN FOWL MITES ONLY in poultry (and control of flies /darkling beetles in poultry and other farm animal housing). My chickens have had regular old yellow lice on the regular (I notice dirty rumps presented to me during their front yard bug patrol and look for the tell tale "rice krispies" attached to their rump feathers). I use ProZap (my spell checker substituted PROZAC! incorrectly) to dust them and I spray their house with permethrin (even though I believe lice generally don't leave their host) JIC! Thank goodness, I have never dealt with Northern Fowl Mites.