Strange thing inside the egg

[Mewcycle]

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? It was just a wad of tissue. The egg seemed perfectly normal otherwise. Just curious about it. Haven’t been able to find explanation via search.

 

[sourland]

It's perhaps a large meat spot or more likely a lash egg contained within a normal egg. Sometimes it's a 'once' sort of occurrence. Other times it may be the beginning of reproductive tract problems. How old are your hens ?

 

[Mewcycle]

It's perhaps a large meat spot or more likely a lash egg contained within a normal egg. Sometimes it's a 'once' sort of occurrence. Other times it may be the beginning of reproductive tract problems. How old are your hens ?

They are 2 years old.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? It was just a wad of tissue. The egg seemed perfectly normal otherwise. Just curious about it. Haven’t been able to find explanation via search.View attachment 3080290

That looks like an incomplete egg within an egg. like it could have been a hiccup.

If it came out on it's own, we would just call it a shell less egg,

But if it was cut open and has cooked looking egg inside.. then it would be more like a lash egg. Can you cut open that sack?

I don't see anything that exactly matches your picture. But like sourland said it could be a "meat spot". Here is a good article to review..

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/common-egg-quality-problems.65923/

Do you know which hen laid it?

 

[Mewcycle]

That looks like an incomplete egg within an egg. like it could have been a hiccup.

If it came out on it's own, we would just call it a shell less egg,

But if it was cut open and has cooked looking egg inside.. then it would be more like a lash egg. Can you cut open that sack?

I don't see anything that exactly matches your picture. But like sourland said it could be a "meat spot". Here is a good article to review..

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/common-egg-quality-problems.65923/

Do you know which hen laid it?

I think it is a lash egg. I just didn’t realize those could happen inside another egg.
Unfortunately I have 5 hens that may have laid that egg. It was either a BO, RIR or BA. One of my Buffs has been laying eggs with very delicate shells

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Do you still have it? Can you cut it open?

It looks like a wrapped up membrane.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I think it is a lash egg. I just didn’t realize those could happen inside another egg.

Did you cut it open? I've seen plenty of lash eggs, never inside a regular egg YET. And not *usually* looking so clearly like a shell less egg as that one does. But I do think it's possible

While I haven't seen lash eggs inside another egg yet.. I HAVE seen a chicken that lays lash eggs ALSO lay regular good eggs. So indeed both are possible at the same time, speaking relatively.

One of my Buffs has been laying eggs with very delicate shells

So this could just be a hiccup.. perhaps the extra daylight is kicking them in high gear not allowing for enough time as the egg passes through or releasing follicles too early. Or your buff may be having shell gland issues.. or need extra supplementation on a personal level.

Did this happen to be one of the delicate shelled eggs that it was inside of? She would be my top suspect.

Usually early released follicles are double yolkers but this is a double membrane.

When cutting open that sack.. if it looks cooked inside then it would be coagulated puss and a sign of lash egg/salpingitis.

The info from this popular hatchery says that a bird consistently laying soft shells is a symptom of it..
https://www.cacklehatchery.com/what-in-the-world-is-that-weird-thing-called-a-lash-egg/

This one has excellent photos and descriptions..
https://cluckin.net/lash-eggs-salpingitis-or-egg-lash-disease-in-chickens.html

 

[Mewcycle]

Did you cut it open? I've seen plenty of lash eggs, never inside a regular egg YET. And not *usually* looking so clearly like a shell less egg as that one does. But I do think it's possible

While I haven't seen lash eggs inside another egg yet.. I HAVE seen a chicken that lays lash eggs ALSO lay regular good eggs. So indeed both are possible at the same time, speaking relatively.


So this could just be a hiccup.. perhaps the extra daylight is kicking them in high gear not allowing for enough time as the egg passes through or releasing follicles too early. Or your buff may be having shell gland issues.. or need extra supplementation on a personal level.

Did this happen to be one of the delicate shelled eggs that it was inside of? She would be my top suspect.

Usually early released follicles are double yolkers but this is a double membrane.

When cutting open that sack.. if it looks cooked inside then it would be coagulated puss and a sign of lash egg/salpingitis.

The info from this popular hatchery says that a bird consistently laying soft shells is a symptom of it..
https://www.cacklehatchery.com/what-in-the-world-is-that-weird-thing-called-a-lash-egg/

This one has excellent photos and descriptions..
https://cluckin.net/lash-eggs-salpingitis-or-egg-lash-disease-in-chickens.html

This egg that it came out of was not a delicate shell. It was a good strong egg. So i don’t think it was hers. Unfortunately I did not keep the blob. But I did try to cut it. It seemed more like a bit of membrane wrapped around itself and I did not see the inside. I just sorta didn’t try to hard to cut it because I didn’t get the idea I’d find anything. So that was just my impression.
Sorta wish I had investigated further.
Thanks for all the information!
Re. The hen laying delicate eggs. She has been doing this since molting season. Funny, she never actually molted. At least not a hard molt that was noticeable. And she never stopped laying. Just kept right on with delicate shells. We have supplemented her calcium with E. But it really hasn’t made a difference.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

The hen laying delicate eggs. She has been doing this since molting season. Funny, she never actually molted. At least not a hard molt that was noticeable. And she never stopped laying. Just kept right on with delicate shells. We have supplemented her calcium with E. But it really hasn’t made a difference.

Protein makes a difference in my experience in molting birds especially.. It's the amino acids..

Heavy breed birds like Orps will do best with at least 18% protein (I prefer 20%). I don't think it's relative to your first question (the weird membrane) but it's worth consideration and discussion as follow up (to the soft shell).. you mention the supplements you've tried (vaguely), but I don't think I saw what the standard feed routine including treats and supplements is (if you wanna discuss it). Also a more complete supplement (like Poultry Cell or Poultry Booster) *might* make a more significant impact than individual supplements.

While many (most) birds will be fine with the standard "minimums" of most "layer" feeds, some won't thrive as well.. Sometimes even when we do everything we can genetics will trump our efforts. Still we try our best with the information we do have.

Strange how the birds don't read all our texts about how and when they're supposed to molt and such. They keep us on our toes or at least me!