Triple C

[Poultry mum]

Hey guys Ive just started my flock on triple C… just wanted to know if there is a withholding period for eggs as I can’t find any information on the net…thanks

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Hey guys Ive just started my flock on triple C… just wanted to know if there is a withholding period for eggs as I can’t find any information on the net…thanks

Triple C is Chlortetracycline hydrochloride, seems to be plenty of info on the net.

https://www.drugs.com/vet/ctc-soluble-powder.html
https://www.drugs.com/vet/pennchlor-100-g.html
https://www.drugs.com/vet/chloronex-soluble-powder.html

 

[Poultry mum]

Triple C is Chlortetracycline hydrochloride, seems to be plenty of info on the net.

https://www.drugs.com/vet/ctc-soluble-powder.html
https://www.drugs.com/vet/pennchlor-100-g.html
https://www.drugs.com/vet/chloronex-soluble-powder.html

None of them state a with holding period for chicken eggs… or duck eggs… as my business revolves around me selling my organic free range Eggs I can’t afford to sell a product that MAY not be safe for human consumption.

 

[Eggcessive]

What is the reason for starting your chickens on an antibiotic? It used to be given here to help prevent necrotic enteritis in poultry, and is sometimes used to treat mycoplasma (MG and MS.) It has been removed from feed store shelves to prevent overuse of antibiotics.

 

[Poultry mum]

What is the reason for starting your chickens on an antibiotic? It used to be given here to help prevent necrotic enteritis in poultry, and is sometimes used to treat mycoplasma (MG and MS.) It has been removed from feed store shelves to prevent overuse of antibiotics.

I had some that started delvoping wheezing breathing nasal discharge sneezing and open mouth breathing. however there is no funky smell from there breath so I’m told that’s a good sign.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

None of them state a with holding period for chicken eggs… or duck eggs… as my business revolves around me selling my organic free range Eggs I can’t afford to sell a product that MAY not be safe for human consumption.

I had some that started delvoping wheezing breathing nasal discharge sneezing and open mouth breathing. however there is no funky smell from there breath so I’m told that’s a good sign.

You are in Australia, so regulations may be different there than in the US.
Actually, if you want to be technical, egg withholding period is "stated" in those links. The drug is not FDA approved for use in laying hens.

Residue Warnings: Withdraw 24 hours before slaughter of chickens, turkeys and five days for swine. Do not feed to chickens producing eggs for human consumption.

No one can tell you the withdrawal period. Since you are selling eggs to others, then it would be wise to do more research, look at FARAD or contact your local agricultural facility and ask.

I would be hesitant to sell eggs when treating birds with antibiotics.
If you are breeding and selling chickens, chicks, hatching eggs, etc. it would also be a very good idea to find out what you are dealing with if you suspect respiratory illness. It would be a shame to sell sick birds that may be carrying illness that can spread to other people's flocks.

 

[Poultry mum]

You are in Australia, so regulations may be different there than in the US.
Actually, if you want to be technical, egg withholding period is "stated" in those links. The drug is not FDA approved for use in laying hens.

Residue Warnings: Withdraw 24 hours before slaughter of chickens, turkeys and five days for swine. Do not feed to chickens producing eggs for human consumption.

No one can tell you the withdrawal period. Since you are selling eggs to others, then it would be wise to do more research, look at FARAD or contact your local agricultural facility and ask.

I would be hesitant to sell eggs when treating birds with antibiotics.
If you are breeding and selling chickens, chicks, hatching eggs, etc. it would also be a very good idea to find out what you are dealing with if you suspect respiratory illness. It would be a shame to sell sick birds that may be carrying illness that can spread to other people's flocks.

Yes totally agree… I have since been told 2-4 weeks for withholding eggs…
as for the illness itself…. It’s a strange one because not all my flock has gotten it.. in fact I have noticed that’s been localised to mainly the ones who come inside at night (the roosters and younger girls) where as only 2 or 3 of the ones that spend 24hrs outside 365 days have it … again the younger of the outside lot… and with no funky smell to the breath as is seen with CRD then it makes me wonder if the inside ones have “a cold” from going from the warmth of indoor to the cold of outside.

 

[dawg53]

CRD is Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG). There is no "funky smell" when it comes to MG. The funky smell is the result of birds infected with Infectious Coryza. It simply means your birds dont have Coryza but might have MG. Give it time, it will spread through you flock.
Your flock will no longer be 'organic' once you give them chemicals to treat your birds.
MG can be passed through eggs. You'll have to maintain a closed flock. No selling or giving away eggs to be hatched. No new birds in, no birds out.
Consider contacting your agriculture officials and have them test one of your sickest birds for MG or any other respiratory diseases your bird(s) might have. Then you'll know exactly what you're dealing with.

 

[Poultry mum]

CRD is Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG). There is no "funky smell" when it comes to MG. The funky smell is the result of birds infected with Infectious Coryza. It simply means your birds dont have Coryza but might have MG. Give it time, it will spread through you flock.
Your flock will no longer be 'organic' once you give them chemicals to treat your birds.
MG can be passed through eggs. You'll have to maintain a closed flock. No selling or giving away eggs to be hatched. No new birds in, no birds out.
Consider contacting your agriculture officials and have them test one of your sickest birds for MG or any other respiratory diseases your bird(s) might have. Then you'll know exactly what you're dealing with.

Thanks for the advice but as quickly as this came on they are responding extremely well to the triple C and I’ve managed to contain it fairly quickly.
My new question is where could they have gotten this from as I haven’t purchased any new birds for over a month and it was mainly the ones that come inside and then go outside as to not upset the neighbors with early morning crowing which I had been doing for over a month. The only thing that changed with my boys was 2 of them got rooster collars and only one of them got sick...

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Chlortetracycline hydrochloride

I have since been told 2-4 weeks for withholding eggs…
as for the illness itself

Hi just wondering if you knew of a with holding period for the eggs with the triple c (I too am in aus).

I ended up taking her to the vet and got some oxytetracycline hydrochloride medicine. She’s isolated in a big dog cage in the laundry and already seems to be doing a lot better. She’s still sneezing a bit and open mouth breathing here and there but isn’t wheezing or as noisy. This morning (I live in Australia) was the first time she woke up with her tail right up and was clicking away in the laundry. She’s having a nap in her nice fresh cage now and seems very keen to join her other sisters (who are all good!)

thank you for asking

Hey, yep the avian vet I asked said between 2-4weeks

My new question is where could they have gotten this from as I haven’t purchased any new birds for over a month and it was mainly the ones that come inside and then go outside as to not upset the neighbors with early morning crowing which I had been doing for over a month.

Right. I do see you asked on another thread. Glad you found a timeline you feel comfortable with. The OP on that thread ended up getting meds from a vet and the vet gave it off label - don't know if the OP sells eggs or if they are for personal use, so this might play a part in the timeline the vet recommended. Vets often prescribe medicationi for off label use. Also - just saying- not trying to be difficult, but their vet prescribed Oxytetracycline Hydrochloride and the Triple C you have is Chlortetracycline hydrochloride - while both are "cyclines" they are not the same.
Either way, it's up to you to determine what course to take.

Bringing birds from different sources, going on other people's property, the wing, wild birds....there's plenty of scenarios as to where birds can get respiratory disease.
Glad to hear they are responding to the medication - without testing there's no way to really know what you are dealing with but likely Mycoplasma.

Good Luck!