What color are these mini Lops?

[bossynbella]

This is my most recent litter of mini lops. The dad is Chestnut agouti the mom is black. Dad has chestnut agouti parents. Mom has blues, blacks, an opal, and some agouti's in her pedigree. This is my second litter out of the dad, but first out of the mom.
Seven babies
4- black
2-Bluish????
1-Agouti - maybe, what kind? Have heard black tipped steel, and a few others.

The mom with the babies

The dad

 

[bossynbella]

Really nothing??? Come on where are all the rabbit people, someone has to have seen this greyish color before, I have heard many ideas from siamese Sable (doesn't look right to me) to Smoke pearl (I don't see that one either) but I could be wrong.

Thanks for looking

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[gaited horse]

I want to say the bluish one might be a sable ML just because that's how my American sable's look at that age.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Yes, that one is definitely an agouti, but I'm not sure what kind. I've never been great at colors or had a real need to learn them. That will have to change if I ever breed. XD

 

[NewHopePoultry]

The blueish ones look to be smoke Pearl Point or sable point (leaning toawrds this one)
The tipped one looks to be Black Gold Tipped Steel, maybe seal.

 

[xchairity_casex]

i dunno about the colors but i will take this one please!

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[bossynbella]

Thanks for the ideas. I raised rabbits for years when I was a kit (from age 7-16) lots of mixed breed rabbits, as well as mini rex, and never had a problem figuring out what colors I had. I have had rabbits for three years now this time and until this year I always knew what we had almost as soon as they where born. I have never had an agouti who wasn't just "chestnut". I am completely surprised by the s?able points? in this litter. But happily surprised. I have been looking at pictures of them online and they are beautiful! I will be keeping one for sure if that is what they are. It makes me wonder if the pedigree I was given with Eva is really that accurate, or if someone just made it up. Of course we don't know what colors Alex has in his background either. He has thrown blue pointed whites in his other two litters, and I wonder if its whatever gene causes that, that gave us Sable point.
I am trying to figure out the rabbit genetics thing, but right now it is still gibberish to me. So, if any of you "get it" what would I get if I crossed a blue pointed white to A. Eva- the black doe that is the mother of these kits. or B. One of the ?sable point? does (which would be a half sister to him as well, same father, different mother)

Thanks again!
Melissa

 

[gaited horse]

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I love genetics. Yes I am weird. I believe you woul have a higher chance of black IF there is a lot of black in the pedigrees.
I know American Sables you breed a Pointed white to a seal and get a higher percent sable but if you cross Sable to any off those colors it can reduce the sable numbers and bring up the pointed white (charlies and the seals (sports)

 

[BlueLagoonRabbitry]

Gold Tipped Black Steel
and The Blueish ones seem to be either Siamese Sable or Siamese Smoke Pearl

 

[bossynbella]

Thank you. I have a friend coming over to tattoo their ears tomorrow. We have in the past been simply doing the does Initial and a number. However as I am keeping them longer (to see show potential and to show them ) I would like to start giving them names instead of numbers. I would also like the tattoo to show the name. Looking at my doe Eva's pedigree, one of the owners seem to name the offspring with the same first letter as the dad or mom depending on gender of the kit. For example in this litter the boy kits names would start with an A like Alex the fathers, the girls names would start with an E like Eva the mothers. Right now none of the rabbits we haves name starts with the same letters, so this could work for a while at least and let us trace parentage, and give better tattoos then just a letter and number would.
My main question is would you buy a 3-5 month old rabbit that was not only names but had that name tatoed on its ear? I really need to name them something because to put them into Kintraks (my pedigree/stock program) it requires a name, Then when I am adding litters etc it is hard to tell just from the name (I have been using ear numbers as names)which kits are which. If that makes any since. Like our older mini lop kits are M1 M2 M3 M4 - though as I have named two of them now I have changed to the name. But would like the name and ear number to be the same, or at least somehow track the generations.

Sorry I am rambling, it was a long day, worked 10 hours and should probably go to bed.
Thanks again,
Melissa