Wheaten satin

[NatJ]

If wheaten isn't common in silkies, then it likely came in from whatever breed the satin feathers were introduced with?

Yes

Would the wheaten gene have any likelihood of being tied to the satin gene, meaning, a silkie feathered bird wouldn't have the wheaten gene?

If this chart is correct:
https://kippenjungle.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Chicken_Chromosome_Linkages

The Silkie feathering gene has no linkage to the E locus (which is where Wheaten is).

So no, wheaten would not be more likely in birds with silkie feathers or with normal feathers, when those birds come from the same parents.

So her father should be passing the Wheaten gene on to 50% of his offspring, but none will show it because they only get one copy right?

Yes, except that some will show it if they also inherit Wheaten from their mother (like this one did).

I could either breed her back to her father, or I could breed the father to another hen, and 50% chance the resulting cockerel would carry Wheaten and then breeding that cockerel to her, 50% of their offspring would be Wheaten.

Yes, breeding her to a half-brother that carries Wheaten should give 50% Wheaten offspring.

There is one other Wheaten pullet I know hatched from this same cross. I was just googling black, blue, and splash Wheaten, there is a cockerel I saw a photo of from my girl's eggs that may be a splash wheaten, it is super light colored, basically white with just little frosted hints of color on the fluff. Really pretty little one. It would be my Wheaten's full brother.

Definitely interesting!

It would be worth watching for Wheaten cockerels, because crossing Wheaten x Wheaten should give you just Wheaten (that is, when ignoring the effects of other genes like black/blue/splash, or anything else that will change how a "Wheaten" bird looks.)

 

[2ndTink]

Yes


If this chart is correct:
https://kippenjungle.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Chicken_Chromosome_Linkages

The Silkie feathering gene has no linkage to the E locus (which is where Wheaten is).

So no, wheaten would not be more likely in birds with silkie feathers or with normal feathers, when those birds come from the same parents.


Yes, except that some will show it if they also inherit Wheaten from their mother (like this one did).


Yes, breeding her to a half-brother that carries Wheaten should give 50% Wheaten offspring.


Definitely interesting!

It would be worth watching for Wheaten cockerels, because crossing Wheaten x Wheaten should give you just Wheaten (that is, when ignoring the effects of other genes like black/blue/splash, or anything else that will change how a "Wheaten" bird looks.)

I really don't need another color to play with test breeding but... I'll see what happens next year. I just wanted to do BBS silkies and it's already blossomed to just black, blue / splash, chocolate, mauve, and paint... hey, what's one more pen?

Ok, thanks for the info on the Wheaten/ E locus not being linked to the silkie gene, so just a coincidence that both the Wheaten I've seen are satin.

Thanks for your input NatJ, I'll try to remember and tag you if I hatch any of her eggs next year, I've added a note in my chicken spreadsheet

I know of another really pastel colored pullet who is also satin, lol. These chicks have been very unexpected and very interesting.

 

[RememberTheWay]

Thanks!

Can't she breed back to the father?

 

[NatJ]

Can't she breed back to the father?

Yes the pullet could be bred back to her father, and that did get suggested at some point in the thread.

 

[2ndTink]

Can't she breed back to the father?

Yes, but I'd prefer not to, I'm already getting lots of unknowns popping out from these birds, so I'm concerned to breed them together.

 

[NatJ]

Yes, but I'd prefer not to, I'm already getting lots of unknowns popping out from these birds, so I'm concerned to breed them together.

Breeding the rooster to several of his daughters would probably be one of the fastest ways to learn what genes he has, but obviously it is up to you whether you want to do that or not.

 

[RememberTheWay]

Yes the pullet could be bred back to her father, and that did get suggested at some point in the thread.

I replied before I finished reading