Wondering about Red Golden X Yellow Golden Pheasants

[ChristaK]

Hello!
I had bought a beautiful pair of red golden pheasants close to Christmas last year, and over the winter some vermin burrowed under my aviary and ate my female pheasant. There were no signs previous to this so I was totally shocked that she was headless the next morning. Since then I wired the entire bottom of my aviary to make it completely predator proof, unless a bear decides it wants pheasant!
Now I quickly moved the male pheasant into another fully enclosed pen, but he called for his mate for two days. Since then I have been on the mad hunt for a red golden female pheasant for him this spring, but around me (eastern panhandle of WV) I can not find anyone with red golden female pheasants. There are plenty of male pheasants for sale, but no females. I've contacted breeders further away but it always costs about $100 for one female pheasant to be shipped, and seeing as I'm in college and saving for my wedding next year I just can't spend that money on one ornamental bird.
I did find a breeder over three hours away that will ship me a female pheasant for a reasonable price, but it is a yellow golden. Now my goal here is not to breed and sell the babies as breeding stock, but to have a beautiful pair for my enjoyment. Additionally, I'd love to share the opportunity to others around me to own majestic birds like these since ornamental pheasants are extremely hard to come by around here.
Therefore, I'm wondering does anyone have any pictures of this cross?
Thank you!!!


(And yes, I've searched on here for pheasant crosses & know about many of your opinions about crossing, but please understand given my situation I am not looking for negative feedback regarding crosses and hybrids. I simply want to gain more information on what I intend to do, not be "scolded" for my selection.)

 

[deserthotwings]

Yellow Golden Pheasants are mutations of the Red Golden, not hybrids. All of your chicks with this mating will be normal heterozygous Red Goldens. The mating of your Red Golden male to a Yellow Golden hen will produce 100% fertile Red Golden chicks. To produce additional Yellow Golden chicks your 1st generation female chicks will have to be bred back to a Yellow Golden male.

 

[De Wet]

Yellow Golden Pheasants are mutations of the Red Golden, not hybrids. All of your chicks with this mating will be normal heterozygous Red Goldens. The mating of your Red Golden male to a Yellow Golden hen will produce 100% fertile Red Golden chicks. To produce additional Yellow Golden chicks your 1st generation female chicks will have to be bred back to a Yellow Golden male.

interesting fact desert do you think if you breed a normal ringneck male with melanistic female you will get normal ringnecks?

 

[ChristaK]

Thank you so much!!!

 

[deserthotwings]

De Wet the melanistic breed true to themselves, meaning, if you were to cross a Ringneck male and a melanistic hen half of the off spring would be melanistic and the other half Ringneck. If the first generation chicks were allowed to breed back to Ringnecks unapposed, the gene would revert back to Ringneck form. Hope this helps.

 

[De Wet]

De Wet the melanistic breed true to themselves, meaning, if you were to cross a Ringneck male and a melanistic hen half of the off spring would be melanistic and the other half Ringneck. If the first generation chicks were allowed to breed back to Ringnecks unapposed, the gene would revert back to Ringneck form. Hope this helps.

thanks desert its very interesting for me and helpfull

 

[huntersartwork]

hi, thanks for replying about crossing YG and RG. Someone gave me 2 YG hens at a few months of age, sort of shy compared to my handraised RG's, and a Lady Amherst / Red Gold hybrid that I got when he was 2 yrs old. I raised a pure LA male this year but was unable to get unrelated females on time. It is still just coming into egg laying time now, but all I have succeeded in doing is finding an unrelated male that another breeder will take one of my YG hens to breed and I am promised a chicks from that pairing. But in the meantime, a vry friendly YG hen we will be keeping and I wanted to know what I could safely breed her to, since I was not wanting to get this "cinnamon" plumage phase I've heard it called. I was told that the RG crossed with YG would yield the cinnamon, and that leaves my old male LA/RG hybrid who I don't even know if that cross is a fertile male in, and I also have my pure Lady Amherst male yearling. Since several of the pheasants hens all look the same, with minor differences, including the Lady Amherst, RG, etc, I don't know what 4 of the females that I acquired are, in truth. One was born from a triangular smallish egg and she appears to be that more contrasting barring, dark & light faced hen of the Lady Amhersts, while the other hens are much larger, heavy, more evenly toned barring with fatter, fuller, brighter toned faces & necks. Do you know if a Lady Amherst / Red Gold male is a fertile male? Is there any pairing for my YG hens that I should avoid to prevent infertile offspring? You are so kind to share this information. We breeders only have each other. I have raised heritage American turkeys for 20yrs and seek new flock owners to coach and share our excellent bloodlines with, encouraging bloodline-expansions with them, taming birds and free-range lifestyle for hte birds sakes and hte enjoyment of their owners knowing they have birds living the life God built them to enjoy under your protection & care. No one gets rich at this in money, but other ways are treasures in every season. Bless you

 

[Friendofall]

I live in Louisburg NC and have Reds Yellows Amherst Peach Salmon. I am hatching chicks so I may be able to help you out.

 

[huntersartwork]

Hello Louisburg:

Sorry, I didn't log into the email acct for this thread in a long time and never saw your reply. This year I was tryinto add a female Lady Amherst, preferably new-hatched, to bond with us as
a pet, as our other birds do. I also was scheduled to add a male Yellow Goldeh to my 1+ yr old hens (2), who did act like they might have allowed themselves to be bred early this past
season, but my males weren't cooperating, as both were also on ly 1 yr olds. I did put them with my older hybrid LA/RG male, and he tried at times to breed them,and they did a great job
laying about 2 dozen eggs altogehter, but none appeared to be fertile, or, if fertile, they didn't make it. Since we had a disastrous year in both our own incubator at home and at our friend's
incubator, our proofing machine, we just think this was a bad year. The eggs that were laid in a hen=made nest, set on and hatched by her also had a 90% failure, even of eggs that were
seen to be fertile at 55% relative to fertile per total eggs laid by her. She did a great job in a warm place, up off the ground in outdoor snakeproof coop, but in the end, we had 2 of the 5 that
she hatched to actually be killed during hatching by the tiny ants that plagued our area this year. These tiny ants have actually killed off or scared off the former XL ants that were here eating
out the oatk trees, pine roots, our house, etc. Now, it's the tiny ones.
So, I do have a good supply of hte Red Goldens right now, just need those 2 things mentioned at top. I found a man in Sneeds Ferry but my designated driver doesn't allow for that distance
of gas expense for a $20 bird. Economy has killed all sense of realitiy and romance, wouldn't you say?
I do like to consider trading bloodlines, so if that appeals to you at some time, or if you know someone wanting to consider a trade of grown birds, tame, healthy, let me know.
I prefer to talk on the phone, as I forget to come back online a lot
mari lapointe
919-554-2106

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[huntersartwork]

Hello Louisburg:

Sorry, I didn't log into the email acct for this thread in a long time and never saw your reply. This year I was tryinto add a female Lady Amherst, preferably new-hatched, to bond with us as
a pet, as our other birds do. I also was scheduled to add a male Yellow Goldeh to my 1+ yr old hens (2), who did act like they might have allowed themselves to be bred early this past
season, but my males weren't cooperating, as both were also on ly 1 yr olds. I did put them with my older hybrid LA/RG male, and he tried at times to breed them,and they did a great job
laying about 2 dozen eggs altogehter, but none appeared to be fertile, or, if fertile, they didn't make it. Since we had a disastrous year in both our own incubator at home and at our friend's
incubator, our proofing machine, we just think this was a bad year. The eggs that were laid in a hen=made nest, set on and hatched by her also had a 90% failure, even of eggs that were
seen to be fertile at 55% relative to fertile per total eggs laid by her. She did a great job in a warm place, up off the ground in outdoor snakeproof coop, but in the end, we had 2 of the 5 that
she hatched to actually be killed during hatching by the tiny ants that plagued our area this year. These tiny ants have actually killed off or scared off the former XL ants that were here eating
out the oatk trees, pine roots, our house, etc. Now, it's the tiny ones.
So, I do have a good supply of hte Red Goldens right now, just need those 2 things mentioned at top. I found a man in Sneeds Ferry but my designated driver doesn't allow for that distance
of gas expense for a $20 bird. Economy has killed all sense of realitiy and romance, wouldn't you say?
I do like to consider trading bloodlines, so if that appeals to you at some time, or if you know someone wanting to consider a trade of grown birds, tame, healthy, let me know.
I prefer to talk on the phone, as I forget to come back online a lot
mari lapointe
919-554-2106