@Nabiki yeah I'll post them tommorrow, put the hawks can't get into the loft Quilliam just stuck his head out through the fence is the issue I'll put bricks around perimeter and try to get some mesh wiring to blck off the lower few feet of aviary, put there's been broad winged and Coopers attempts on the loft and all have failed miserably getting in, unfortunately I didn't consider my own birds getting their tiny heads through the fence themselves