"Partridge" color

[tiki244]

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If they have been trained for hunting they wont hurt a feather on your chickens. They will retrieve them, but wont hurt them.

With my experience with Vizslas is they are very gentle. And they have a soft mouth. I was fostering a puppy though that saw my pigeons and went kinda nutso.

Kinda gotta watch them till you know how they react. Good for you for adopting one. I just love the breed. Just work with her and be patient and I am sure you wont have any problems. I think they are so wanting to please us humans that is the most important thing for them. Especially the rescue ones.

Thanks for the compliment. That is a picture a friend of mine gave me to put in my avatar. I had a female Vizsla that passed away 3 years ago. And I have a Vizsla cross now.


ETA O forgot to add, I recomend a strong leash when you first introduce her to the chickens. They are bird crazy and if she hasnt been trained for hunting she could go a little nutso over the birds.

 

[walkswithdog]

I LOVE my partridge rocks but ditto Julie's comments, that pic is a SHOW quality bird and a bantam.

Pet quality production partridge rocks actually produce a wide variation on the partridge pattern you see there. Some like Welsummers will have a pronounced lighter central quill - big fault. Some will have the "lacing" heavier, some lighter, some birds will have that lacing "broken up" or speckled. I have some actually good laced hens but most have some significant degree of variation from the standard.

Of the three cockerals I kept, one is significantly orangish, a major nono. The other two fall into the good dark bay mahogany range and are gorgeous boys. My darkest girls and guys all had a dark bronze front to their legs, still do. Getting rid of the orange guy. Can't use him.

I love them. It's kind of fun to see fuzzies turn into juvenille feathers and then finally into mature coloring. Lots of changes to go through before you see what you have! On the Plymouth Rock Club website there is a pdf with a copy of the written standard with great information and good sketches. Don't print it unless you have a ream of paper, it's about 200 pages long.

Only about 30 pages of it apply specifically to partridge as a color.

They're a great breed. Finding show and heritage quality birds is well.... nigh on impossible... So most folks start from the ground up unless they live near one of the show breeders.

Even pet quality they're good solid, friendly birds.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

It's actually penciling, not lacing. Unfortunately, there are several types of penciling that, while they use the same term, are not the same. With partridge, the penciling is concentric to the shape of the feather.

 

[walkswithdog]

Okay thank god you were here, after going on two months on sleep deprivation I did manage to type the wrong word. LOL think one thing - type another. If this puppy lives she is sooooo gonna owe me sleep...

 

[ella]

Partridge Rock pullet from Privett Hatchery

 

[Birch Run Farm]

Nice, thanks, I will have a closer look at that pullet tonight.

 

[Guinea Goonie]

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Thanks ella. Now I know what to expect. I do not know why the hatchery would put this pic up of their PR, but now I know.

Well, they still are very pretty and hopefully very big.

 

[E flowers]

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That bird in the pic is a SQ bird and is a bantam. The ones from a hatchery will be PQ and likely be LF.

Partridge is not the "original" color.

Partridge standard:

Color of male​

HEAD: Surface of feather, brilliant medium shade of rich red.​

NECK: Hackle - surface of feather, lustrous greenish black with narrow edging around entire surface of rich brilliant red; shaft. black: to match saddle. Front of neck - black.​

BACK: Surface of feather, lustrous greenish black with narrow edging around entire surface of a medium shade of rich brilliant red. A slight shafting of rich red is permissible. The surface of upper back should appear to be rich glossy red, when viewed from a distance too great to distinguish the individual feathers.​

SADDLE: surface of feather, lustrous green black with narrow edging around entire surface of rich brilliant red; shaft black; to match hackle in color.​

TAIL: Main Tail black, shafts black. Sickles & Lesser Sickles lustrous greenish black. Coverts lustrous greenish black, with narrow edging around entire surface of rich brilliant red.​

WINGS: Shoulders & Fronts black. Bows medium shade of rich brilliant red. Coverts lustrous greenish black, forming a well defined bar when wing is folded. Primaries black, lower edges of lower feathers, reddish bay, shafts black. Secondaries black, exposed portion of outer web forming wing bay, reddish bay; shafts, black.​

BREAST: Lustrous black with greenish sheen.​

BODY & STERN: Body black. Stern fluff, black slightly tinged with red.​

LOWER THIGHS: black.​

UNDERCOLOR: slate in all sections.​

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Color of female​

PLUMAGE: penciling in the partridge female should be of uniform width and conform to the shape of the feather. Each feather of the back, breast, body, wing bows and thighs should have three pencilings; the center black, then alternately reddish bay and black, ending with reddish bay edging around the entire surface. More attention should be given to the brightness and sharpness of the reddish bay ground color and the almost jet black penciling than whether the bird appears lighter or darker than an individual preference. The ideal is one uniform color over the entire body of the bird.​

HEAD: deep reddish bay.​

NECK: Hackle surface of feather, center portion black; slightly penciled with deep reddish bay. With narrow edging around the entire surface of deep reddish bay. Front of neck same as breast.​

BACK: Deep reddish bay with distinct pencilings of black.​

TAIL: Main Tail black, except two top feathers, which are deep reddish bay on the upper web, penciled with black, shafts black. Coverts deep reddish bay, with distinct pencilings of black.​

WINGS: Shoulders, Fronts, Bows and Coverts - deep reddish bay, with distince pencilings of black. Primaries black with edging of deep reddish bay on outer webs, shafts black. Secondaries inner webs black; outer webs deep reddish bay, with distinct pencilings of black extending around outer edge of feather, shafts black.​

BREAST: Deep reddish bay with distinct pencilings of black.​

BODY & STERN: Body - deep reddish bay penciled with black. Stern fluff, deep reddish bay.​

LOWER THIGHS: Deep reddish bay, penciled with black.​

UNDERCOLOR: Slate in all directions.​

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Disqualifications​

Positive white in main tail feathers, sickles of secondaries Shanks other than yellow or dusky yellow.​

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Defects​

Purple sheen in males Unevenness of ground color in females Dullness, mealiness and smokiness in ground color of females White in undercolor Red on partridge males is not to be so dark as to give the impression that the bird is black No male is to be awarded a first premium if ten percent or more of his breast feathers are other than black.​

What are the color symbols for Partridge Penedesenca and brown lehorns?
Like BB is dominant black and WW is dominant white. I can't find anything with the colors on different parts of the body simplified to just the lettering. I'm not very smart when it comes to genetics and need it dummed down for me to understand.
I've been curious about breeding a natural brown hen with brown eggs possibly dark legs and its a bit of a stretch but white tail (not sure if that's even possible). Also I want them to be bigger birds and hearty, with flighty temperament and good foraging capabilities. I figured just single comb.
Could you break everything down so I can know exactly what breeds I'd need and what type of breeding system I'd need to use?

 

[NatJ]

What are the color symbols for Partridge Penedesenca and brown lehorns?
Like BB is dominant black and WW is dominant white. I can't find anything with the colors on different parts of the body simplified to just the lettering.

I'm not sure about the Partridge Penedesencas.
For the Brown Leghorns, they do not have the same genes as the "Partridge" chickens being discussed in this thread.

In the USA, people say "partridge" to mean the color in this thread, with several black lines making curves in a feather and gold/brown in the other parts of the feather. But in some other places, people say "Partridge" to mean the color of a Brown Leghorn, which is genetically and visually different. (Biggest visual difference to me: Brown Leghorns have little black dots sprinkled in the feathers, not little black lines curving in the feathers.)

What are the color symbols for Partridge Penedesenca and brown lehorns?
Like BB is dominant black and WW is dominant white. I can't find anything with the colors on different parts of the body simplified to just the lettering. I'm not very smart when it comes to genetics and need it dummed down for me to understand.
I've been curious about breeding a natural brown hen with brown eggs possibly dark legs and its a bit of a stretch but white tail (not sure if that's even possible). Also I want them to be bigger birds and hearty, with flighty temperament and good foraging capabilities. I figured just single comb.
Could you break everything down so I can know exactly what breeds I'd need and what type of breeding system I'd need to use?

I suggest you start a new thread for this question. It gets confusing when an old thread gets a new subject added many years later.

Genetics questions usually fit best in this section:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forums/exhibition-genetics-breeding-to-the-sop.16188/