Tumbler pigeons info

[Fay at Frizzled Feathers]

Hello ,

Been thinking about getting some Tumlers for our 10 year old son , and i would like some info on them before making our final decission.

feed requirment
housing space needed per bird
whats the best kind to get
how long do you keep before setting them free to watch fly
are they winter hardy
how hard is it to tell male / female apart
are the hens good setters or is it better to incubate their eggs
if incubate the eggs do you use KTEE EXACT (spelling ) powder for hand feeding

Any info would be appreciated as well.

Thank you !

Fay

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

Tumblers are great little birds

I'm sure your son would love them.

There are a LOT of different breeds of tumblers. Since you said you wanted to free fly them, I guess we'll go with the flying ones. Probably the most popular are the West of England Tumblers. There are also Turkish Tumblers, Komorner Tumblers, and more!

One of the best places you'll find tumbler breeds is on Eggbid.com

Oh and also, there are Rollers. People often get them confused with Tumblers. Birmingham Rollers will do backflips in flight, so they're really neat to watch. I used to have many of them, and they're a hardy breed.

You'll need to keep new birds in the loft/cage for a month before free flying. This allows them to get completely settled in and used to the feeding and such. If they're adults, you may also have eggs by then too.

It's not really that hard at all to tell a male from a female. The younger they are, the harder it is to tell. Usually by a few months old, the males will start bow-cooing, there they puff up their neck and turn in circles while cooing. Hens usually don't cause so much commotion. Also in sexually mature birds (5+ months to be on the safe side), you can feel the pelvic bones near the vent. They come down to a "V". If they are very close together or touching, it's a male, and if there's a space, it's a hen.

The parents are very good at their job, so no hand feeding or fostering is necessary. I strongly recommend NOT incubating the eggs since you'll have to hand feed them Kaytee Exact formula from day one, which takes a lot of time. Also, both parents feed the babies crop milk, which basically supplies the young with their immune system during the first week. No formula substitute can match what the parents give the babies health-wise.

The general rule in pigeon keeping is 1 spare foot of space per bird. If you're only looking to get a pair, something like a rabbit hutch will do. But then of course you'd need somewhere to put the babies. Most people have lofts, which is basically like a chicken coop. Here's some pictures of my lofts 'n' cages I've used to give you some ideas:
http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/LoftPictures#
In fact, the one titled "First loft" was originally our chicken coop. But we converted it into a loft pretty easily.
You might find more help looking around in here than what I can tell you. I'm not a builder for sure

Lot's of loft plans, pictures, and info:
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f38/

For food, anything from wild bird seed to chicken pellets will work. Pigeons love a variety of seeds, so something more bird seed-like is probably better than say...chicken scratch. Some feed stores carry pre-mixed pigeon food made by companies like Brown's. Pellets can make birds fat, so it's best to mix it with seed. Pigeons can take a while to get used to eating pellets, so don't get discouraged if you do choose to feed them some. On another note, pigeons love peanuts, so if you ever want to give them a treat, just throw in some raw spanish peanuts. You'll also need to provide them with grit. Chicken grit is fine, preferably with some cushed oyster shell in it. Grit is almost as important as the food since it helps with digestion and is a good source for calcium and other minerals they may not get from their food.

And finally, YES they are winter hardy

As long as you have an area they can get in with at least three solid sides so the cold drafts don't get to them, they'll be fine. Pigeons can get acclamated to just about any climate. The biggest thing that can hurt a pigeon in the cold is the wind, since it doesn't take much to cool a bird's body down really quick.

If I missed anything or if you have any more questions, I'll be more than happy to help!

Talking about pigeons is fun to me.

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

One more thing, you can find just about anything under the sun for pigeons between these two places:
http://www.siegelpigeons.com/
http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/

 

[Fay at Frizzled Feathers]

Wow , Thank you soo much for all the wonderful info. and links. You are very helpful !

Fay

 

[deerman]

You can get parlor also they dont fly so need smaller area, they roll on the ground.
both male and female set on the eggs. male day shift, female nights.

Bad IDEA to feed scratch feed. whole grains or pellets is best. Scratch feed has crack corn which is bad for pigeon.

Homers or rollers ae good breeds for newbe.Just wait until they raise baby and break those to home.

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

The only bad thing about cracked corn is the sharp edges they may have, which could possibly scratch up or puncture the crop if they gorge themselves on it. Bacteria can also hide and grow easier in broken corn than whole corn. I fed my birds scratch feed for a few years when I started before I found some pigeon food. Never had a problem with it myself, but like I said, it's not the best healthwise and nutrition-wise.

 

[Fay at Frizzled Feathers]

Just thought i would update a lil

My DS and DH purchased some Burmingham rollers,They are really enjoying them !

They have pairs setting on eggs everywhere already , lol
Just finished the kit box and have 8 young ones in there getting them ready so they can fly them.

The Parlors are of great interest , they sound like they would be really kool to watch.
We have been unable to locate any in the area

Does anybody here have any for sale ?

if so whats the total cost of a pair shipped to 65667 ? We are thinkin maybe great Fathers' Day gift !

Thank you !

Fay

 

[shelleyd2008]

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If you find any, let me know!! My son was given 2 parlor rollers a few months ago, turns out they are both males. One of them has paired up with one of my dad's flying rollers, if they ever manage to hatch the eggs, that will be interesting to see if the young can fly or not! I am needing a couple of girls, and I don't know where the guy that gave these to us got them!! It seems as if no one in my area has these birds!!

 

[Fay at Frizzled Feathers]

Hello Shelley,
When i find the Parlor rollers i will be sure to let you know. I am very determined on finding them

Since your son has 2 of them i'll ask you , are they as kool to watch as i have heard they are?

WOW , will be very interesting to know wheather the mix will roll on the ground or fly , please keep me updated i would really like to know what the offspring will do.

 

[shelleyd2008]

One of them doesn't roll too much, you have to 'drop' it quite a few times before it will, then it only goes over a few times and tries to 'run' away.

The other one is really cool, it is the daddy of the eggs that they haven't been able to hatch yet. He rolls so many times that he makes himself dizzy!! Very easy to catch afterwards

We have to be careful where we let it roll at, last time it almost rolled all the way to my tied-up GSD!! She just LOVES the birds!!

I believe it was about 30 feet? Not sure though, I'd have to measure it. Very cool though!! If they ever hatch the eggs, I'll let you know. But I have been told that young parlor rollers can fly until they are either 4 or 6 months old, so I'm sure it will be a while! I hope we both find some, they are very neat birds