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hehehe, she has an awfully wide crop

Cuba I do believe that Pocahontas shoulda been named Mae West ;-)

They are handsome and definitely OG of some type - experts out there?

"... it seems to me the scientists have camps so they tend to interpret toward that end it is pretty much single event vs multiple event. Also with these studies there has got to be people who want the event to happen in their country. I know from when I last took any science classes, statistics...

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/8/174 link to the Indian paper Centrarchid I look forward to hearing your perspective on this paper. My impression of their conclusion is that there were multiple, widespread domestication events of related continental jungle fowl. Variation in parent...

Yes centrarchid. I followed some links on the same subject to a much different Indian paper, and they conclude they are ALL red jungle fowl, with even domestic chickens material not justifying separate species category. Sort of like asserting all dogs and coyotes are races of Canis lupus...

I read with interest the link several pages ago discussing galliforme ancestry and proposing the existence of "gallus giganteus", an extinct ancestor for Malay and other Asian gamefowl. For fun I Googled various search terms and found the following paper...

Cubalaya - I actually LIKE the idea, just so we're clear on the concept

Uh, really? hehe, if I take all your odd colored grades with nice low tails, heaven knows what colored cubalaya looking things will be roaming my woods!

What JAT said cubalaya - that second pullet is sweet looking. I have one almost the same age with good tail, but she has yellow legs :-(

My Tuzo/Jap hen went hard broody 3 weeks ago, so I took her into the garage and let her set. She has hatched 5 chicks. Most are pure cubalaya but I suspect this one might be 1/2 Jap, 1/2 BBR cubalaya. Whatever it is I am unfamiliar with the color. What color do you think it will grow out?

Hellbender, you might try Cubalayas. They were bred from Orientals and have much of the personality, but have a full coat of feathers.

Ya'll aren't the only ones hatching late. I had a black cubalaya hen from Virgina that decided to go broody, so I let her have the 5 eggs. I think she was mostly being bred by my dark BBR stag, 3/4 cubalaya, 1/4 Thai I have an out door broody box with a small attached run. I put a heat lamp...

I took a friend to see the "chicken trees" at Claypool's place last week. He is selling lots of hens off $2-3, but I really was enamored of one cockerel. He is a stunning BBR, white legs, correct comb, low spread tail, big, he could pass for a full cubalaya. If I didn't like my new stags so much...

Real old fashioned Sumatra are something I dream of seeing up some holler on some old cocker's yard here in the hills.

Yup, that looks like a lot of the Black Japs around here. Some folks try to call them Tuzo or Asil, but who knows. I like them either way - very smart, fast and densely muscled

In other news, I have an odd result from mating my white Cubalaya cock over a local Asil/Black Jap hen. This batch are coming on 2 months old. This little guy is trying to screech out a crow already, and appears to be HENNIE feathered! This is a picture of his egg mother:

OK cubalaya, here's a picture of the 3/4 cuba, 1/4 Thai boy I brought home. The richness of his color is hard to photograph.

Will do guys. That stag is a total sweetheart.

Is jumping an asil specialty? I bought a couple little black hens last year, and if a young cockerel they don't like comes after them they bounce straight up in the air, maybe 4'. It is a very different, memorable move. Then they chase him off. They bounce like popcorn going off!