Ameraucana Breeding Conundrum. Input?

[JesWith3]

I would like to breed Ameraucanas (not Easter Eggers, not Americanas), but I have recently read that the offspring resulting from an Ameraucana of one color bred to an Ameraucana of a different color will not be a true Ameraucana, but instead an Easter Egger.
Why? How?
If that is the case, even though they are now Easter Eggers, both parents were Ameraucana (or were they??) so will offspring still be only blue egg layers?

Here is my conundrum...
I purchased Ameraucana hatching eggs with the intention of keeping one rooster and breeding him first to siblings and then to future offspring resulting from that, etc.
If he mates with the Ameraucanas that are different colors, I am essentially just breeding Easter Eggers.
What if, then, the seller I purchased the eggs from was breeding two differently colored Ameraucanas not knowing she's really just breeding EEs and now I've just got a bunch of EE eggs? Can my EEs breed back to purebred Ameraucanas if I continue breeding only one color to the same color?

I hope I'm making sense. This is all news to me and need some clarification.
Thank you kindly in advance.

 

[fluffycrow]

I only know of one person actively working with ameraucana, I bet there's more. Granted, I haven't invested much time in researching the breeding practices of ameraucana, but I imagine they work just like every other breed. It's not that if you cross two different colored ameraucana you'll get Easter Eggers, it's that you'll get ameraucana that cannot be entered in a show as ameraucana, as the resulting mixed colors of your crossing would produce mixed colored birds. @NagemTX will be able to explain it way better, since I might be wrong

 

[NagemTX]

I only know of one person actively working with ameraucana, I bet there's more. Granted, I haven't invested much time in researching the breeding practices of ameraucana, but I imagine they work just like every other breed. It's not that if you cross two different colored ameraucana you'll get Easter Eggers, it's that you'll get ameraucana that cannot be entered in a show as ameraucana, as the resulting mixed colors of your crossing would produce mixed colored birds. @NagemTX will be able to explain it way better, since I might be wrong

That would be a correct assumption. The color wouldn't be recognized but the bird itself is still an Ameraucana. I think they show as Ameraucana but in all other. That is how they work towards getting new colors recognized. There's alot more work to it than just mixing them to get new colors recognized.

Check out the Ameraucana club and Ameraucana Association for more info.

 

[JesWith3]

I only know of one person actively working with ameraucana, I bet there's more. Granted, I haven't invested much time in researching the breeding practices of ameraucana, but I imagine they work just like every other breed. It's not that if you cross two different colored ameraucana you'll get Easter Eggers, it's that you'll get ameraucana that cannot be entered in a show as ameraucana, as the resulting mixed colors of your crossing would produce mixed colored birds. @NagemTX will be able to explain it way better, since I might be wrong

THAT makes perfect sense! Thank you so much!

 

[NagemTX]

Also if you want different colors and to be able to keep and breed them together I would go blue or blue wheaten. You get in the case of blue: blue, black and splash. For blue wheaten you get blue wheaten, wheaten, splash wheaten.

 

[JesWith3]

That would be a correct assumption. The color wouldn't be recognized but the bird itself is still an Ameraucana. I think they show as Ameraucana but in all other. That is how they work towards getting new colors recognized. There's alot more work to it than just mixing them to get new colors recognized.

Check out the Ameraucana clube and Ameraucana Association for more info.

Awesome. Thank you so much! Are the Ameraucana club and Ameraucana Association separate entities from BYC or are they clubs within the BYC community with their own separate discussion? Sorry for the ignorant questions, just trying to learn all I can.
Thanks again!

 

[NagemTX]

Awesome. Thank you so much! Are the Ameraucana club and Ameraucana Association separate entities from BYC or are they clubs within the BYC community with their own separate discussion? Sorry for the ignorant questions, just trying to learn all I can.
Thanks again!

They are separate from BYC. They are part of the association that sets standards for all poltry in the USA. APA is that association.

 

[NagemTX]

Thanks,
I ordered 5 blue Eggers from Cackle Hatchery.

Was reading earlier on a different thread, some one said their Ameraucana laid brown eggs.

They should not be laying brown. There is a guide card from the clubs for the different shades of blue.

On new colors being developed, if it has a cross in from another breed you could get green. If it's early in the project you could get brown but if it's finished it should only be blue.

 

[Rose the Legbar]

Can somebody please tell me, what are the approved colors for true Ameraucanas? I have only seen posts that say something like, "your bird is not an approved color, therefore it is an EE." Not knowing what the proper colors are, I would be afraid to purchase ... because I wouldn't know what's a true Am and what isn't.

Blue, Black, Splash, Self Blue, Wheaten, Blue Wheaten, Brown Red, Buff, Silver, and White. Look for people that are a part of the Ameraucana Alliance and ask for pictures of their breeding stock. I wish you the best of luck with finding some good quality birds.

 

[HappyHippyChick]

John Blehm in Michigan has good Ameraucanas in most colors and also bantams. They are awesome.