Here is our plastic storage bin style brooder - so far so good for 4 baby chicks- now 5 days, I have the brooder on a table in the garage, garage temp stays about 60 degrees, with heat lamps hanging securely by chain from the garage door motor keeping the brooder about 95 in the warmest area. I am using sand on the bottom which is working out great - very easy cleanup! Even the family boxer loves watching the chick action from the viewing window....