Can you help me sex my 2 turkeys?

[tknjk]

I posted a couple pictures of these 2 when I first got them a while back.
They were too young to tell last time. Here they are a little grown up. If
I had to guess I would guess the palm is a tom, and the red is a hen?
Anyone have any ideas?

Here is my Bourbon Red.

Here is the Royal Palm.

 

[walkswithdog]

Probably a girl but cannot see chest or darker back feathers from the photo - any black edged feathers now???

The Palm is looking Tomish.

 

[hinkjc]

They both look like jakes to me.