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And the other thing Shad, is Mark's hesitancy to confidently diagnose. He works on a 'most likely' principle. 'Most likely' to be EYP, so try antibiotics. Doesn't work. Try an xray. 'Most likely' to be a more aggressive EYP or uterus or tumour, try surgery. Ah! There's the right diagnosis and the right treatment.That's the thing. Gloria was the same but without the technology.
Whereas sometimes people who aren't vets come across as very, very sure of their diagnoses when they haven't even inspected a hen in person. I'm not saying they are sure, but that's how it seems. The medium would have something to do with it.