for Lorna. I've had a few just waste away over the years, and never really got to the bottom of it. I think there are quite a few different things that can cause it, and often there are multiple things going on inside, so it's hard to unravel their combined symptoms and work out what's primary and what's secondary or even tertiary. But a few have fought their way back to health, so, like you MaryJanet, I resist throwing in the towel unless and until I'm sure the direction is just one way. Fingers crossed for Lorna.