Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[alohachickens]

There's two main ways to get solid white chicken. The sneaky, recessive one that pops up is called recessive white. White silkies are recessive white.. so are the white legbars as Pyxis mentioned.

Recessive white is a single gene and it does a good job at making chickens solid white, it does not matter what color or pattern genes the bird has- black, red, gold, barred etc. they are all turned solid white.

The other way to make solid white chickens is with Dominant White. It's great at 'converting' black pigments to white.. but cannot convert red/gold pigments to white- leaving the red/gold areas mostly unaffected. Examples of this are Gold laced vs Buff laced, Dark vs White laced red Cornish... Red duckwing vs Pyle/ In all of these the only difference is the presence of DW- it changed the black areas to white, leaving the red/gold areas.

This leads to a neat trick to making a solid white bird using DW- putting it on solid black chickens- presto, solid white chickens. All it did was convert the black into white. White Leghorns are a classic example of this.

To repeat a little bit, in hopes of making it clearer.... let's say pick a breed and color example- Buff Orpington. Recessive white would make the buff orp solid white. Dominant white would.... have either zero effect, it would still look the same as any other buff orpington or possibly a shade lighter- a little more blonde perhaps.

Okay how about a black Orpington? Both recessive and dominant white would turn it totally white no problemo.

Mind officially blown. Wish someone had explained this so clearly to me about 5 years ago! Ha ha haaa!!!

Been avoiding white all this time because I thought all white worked like recessive white. Did not understand there were two different genes. DOH!

 

[draye]

I also got a green egg from one of them this week, it was awesome b/c I didn't know if the genetics were still in the flock.

Isn't it funny how genetics work? Seems like things are all bred out then the right ones line up just right then, bam!

 

[DesertChic]

I candled my incubated NN eggs for the first time last night. I had to pull out 2 of the 24 that showed zero development, but all the others seem viable. So excited!!!

 

[ChickyChickens]

Here are the 2 NN chicks!!

 

[Kev]

Mind officially blown. Wish someone had explained this so clearly to me about 5 years ago! Ha ha haaa!!!

Been avoiding white all this time because I thought all white worked like recessive white. Did not understand there were two different genes. DOH!

Haha yeah I know the feeling... wish more people would explain things clearer and easier

By the way, sometimes buff lines will have dominant white in them, either to make them a little lighter and/or to hide any black leaks- ticking, tail tips etc as solid buff is pretty hard thing to achieve so it's kind of like a little cheat. Black shows up against buff more than white does.

 

[Kev]

Here are the 2 NN chicks!!

Very cute!

 

[Kev]

I also got a green egg from one of them this week, it was awesome b/c I didn't know if the genetics were still in the flock.

Congrats! I'm really hoping some of the cockerels are colored egg carriers... none of the pullets I kept from the last season laid colored eggs and one old blue egg laying hen(only managed to set few of her eggs) happened to produce only sons.

 

[ChickyChickens]

Very cute!

 

[Kassaundra]

Isn't it funny how genetics work? Seems like things are all bred out then the right ones line up just right then, bam!

Oh no I didn't intend to breed out green egglaying, I thought I had lost it through the big massacre

 

[Pyxis]

Cute!  how's it feathering out?  I saw a black chick was produced.. so the roo is het white for sure..

So far one wing has feathered in completely white, and the other is almost all white with two black feathers coming in. It's really cute for sure.