prayer warriors (following Jesus Christ, everyone welcome)

[lazy gardener]

No. because such a verse does not exist. There are 2 kinds of death. Physical death. We all know what that is. And spiritual death. The spiritual death is separation from God. When an individual becomes aware of his sin, and thus is held accountable for his sin, he remains spiritually dead until the time he accepts the intercessory death burial and resurrection of Jesus as the perfect attonement for his sin. The scriptures say, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus." Only Jesus, fully God, and fully man, can restore that fellowship with God, and resurrect a spiritually dead person to spiritual life, and fellowship with God. The spirit lives forever, either in a state of fellowship with God, or in eternal separation from God.

 

[kikiruru]

Eternity with God in heaven or if separated from God eternity in hell

 

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Luke 16 NAS

19 “Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. 20 And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, 21 and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man’s table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores. 22 Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. 26 And r]'>[r]besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house— 28 for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

 

[lazy gardener]

31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Wow, simply, and profoundly WOW! That verse slammed me right between the eyes this morning. How often do you read a scripture, and then, when reading it yet again, months or years later, or even for the uppteenth time, does a verse jump off the page and grab you!

How many people, even being exposed to the scriptures, even the prophecies of the Old Testament simply choose not to believe the most profound, most pivotal, most life changing event to ever occur in all of history, time past, present and future. ALL of history pivots around Jesus Christ.

Jesus was talking about HIMSELF in this verse, not Lazarus!!!

This text also puts to rest for me, the discussion of ghosts, claims of seeing Aunt Mary returning from the grave for a visit, or final words of wisdom. According to this text, it can't happen.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Please oray for these people and their families. Supposedly the one guy can't swim but idk if that's true. But they said on TV 2 got reacued and the other 2 are still missing and I think they found a lifeboat with no one in it. If he really can't swim, it will be a miracle if he's alive, SO please pray they find them alive

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/news...ay-for-family-friends-of-lost-misty-blue-crew

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/lo...ship_was_unseaworthy_one_month_before_sinking

I think the second thing is false, was at dock supposedly, but read both

It's also windy and rainy tonight

 

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from gotquestions

Question: "Should Christians support the nation of Israel?"

Answer: Christians should definitely support the nation of Israel. We must remember that Israel, the nation, is very special to God. We read in Deuteronomy 7:6-8 these words: "For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession. The LORD did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath he swore to your forefathers that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt."

God's eternal purpose is to bless the world through Israel. Already He has done so in measure, for "salvation is from the Jews" (John 4:22), but the fullness of future blessing is indicated in the wondrous promise of Isaiah 27:6: "In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit."

The declaration that "salvation is from the Jews” suggests our immeasurable debt to Israel. All that we have worth having has come to us through the Jews. Our Bible is a Jewish Book, and our Savior is a Jewish Savior. Let us never forget to pray for God's chosen people. It is true that Israel, today, is in the place of rejection. The nation is a secular, unbelieving (as to the claims of Scripture and their Messiah, Jesus Christ) nation; but "…at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace" (Romans 11:5). Some Jews are being saved and are becoming members of the body of Christ through faith in their Messiah.

Jews are, biblically speaking, the "chosen people of God" and dearly loved by Him. Another reason for Christians to support the nation of Israel is because of the Abrahamic Covenant. We read of God’s promise in Genesis 12:2-3, "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you" (see also Genesis 27:29; Numbers 24:9).

One of the United States’ most worthwhile accomplishments has been its consistent regard for the plight of the Jewish nation. No nation in the history of the world has a better record of treating individual Jews with respect than does America. The same can be said for our befriending Israel as a nation. America has committed many sins for which we may well deserve judgment, but as a nation, we have been a consistent friend of the Jews and the nation of Israel, as well as a benefactor. In 1948, President Harry Truman helped persuade the United Nations to recognize Israel as a nation. Since then, the United States has contributed billions of dollars in aid to Israel.

From the biblical declarations of God's love and care for His chosen people, the nation of Israel, and from the history of nations being destroyed because of their evil dealings with God's chosen people, the Jews, Christian believers should give support to the chosen people of God. This is not to say that we support necessarily the methods they use in their relationships with the Arab nations. The Bible warned that conflict would always characterize the relations between the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael. Sadly, this conflict will continue until Jesus comes back to judge the nations and sets up His 1,000-year reign of peace on earth. We must look at the "big picture” with a biblical worldview. While we do not have to support everything Israel does as a nation, we most definitely should support Israel’s right to exist. God will fulfill His promises and covenants with Israel. God still has a plan for Israel. Woe to anyone who seeks to defeat that plan; “whoever curses you I will curse” (Genesis 12:3).

 

[lazy gardener]

Good post. The day the US turns her back on Israel is the day God removes his blessing from our sinful nation.

 

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Cathy is out of intensive care, her husband thanks you for the prayers.

 

[lazy gardener]

Good news.

 

[shortgrass]

So...concerning Israel.... Is there scriptural and/or cultural significance to the capitol being moved back to Jerusalem?