American Buff versus Buff Toulouse

[TSOWOATNKC]

What is the difference between a Buff Toulouse and an American Buff? They look so similar in photos. I have an American Buff gander, and I'd like to get him a lady. I have regular Toulouse, and the coloring is quite obviously different. I've found people selling "geese" that are buff in coloring, but I can't tell the American Buff from the Buff Toulouse.

 

[JedJackson]

Buff toulouse are a large breed. Regular buffs are a medium weight breed. They do look pretty similar.

The buff coloring is a recessive trait, so breeding your gander to a gray toulouse will give you all gray offspring. They will all carry the buff gene, though. So those offspring crossed with a buff will give you 50% buff, 50% gray. If you crossed the buff/grey toulouse offspring together you would get 25% buff, 50% gray with recessive buff genes, and 25% gray with no recessive buff genes. It works the same way as the lavender gene in chickens.

 

[Iain Utah]

Personally I cannot visually tell a difference between buff toulouse and american buff, but the previous poster may be correct that the toulouse is slightly heavier weight. I am sure you cannot go wrong with either an american buff or toulouse (buff or grey). If you get a grey goose, then you can have color-sexed babies.

I am very familiar with breeding buff and grey dewlap toulouse, and the resulting offspring from the following combinations:

When you cross buff gander with grey goose, you get buff females and grey males that carry buff gene.

When you cross grey gander with buff gene to buff goose, then you get 50/50 buff and grey babies of each gender.

When you cross grey gander with buff gene to grey goose, you get 25% buff females and all males will be grey with buff gene.

 

[TSOWOATNKC]

The goose in question is just so small, I'm trying to figure out why. She's basically the same size as my ducks, but with a longer neck. She's happy/healthy/loud, she eats like everyone else, her knob is developing nicely; she's just smaller than I'd expect a goose to be. The White Chinese, American Buff, and Toulouse that are almost 2 months younger are bigger than her. The two Toulouse she has been raised with are almost twice her size.

*Note: I don't know for sure Lucy is a girl, I'm just assuming until I learn otherwise.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Where is her pics?

 

[TSOWOATNKC]

Where is her pics?

My iPhone and only functional camera is out for repair at the moment. My eldest son was running it out to me, fell, and the screen turned into a spiderweb of cracks rendering it unreadable, also making every swipe a potential glass shard injury. My son's OK, that's all that really matters. I am however without either phone or camera for at least another week.

All that damage and it was already in a Lifeproof case! I can't imagine how bad it would have been if it hadn't been in a case. That phone had only seen the light of day 5 minutes over the last two years; when it was out of the box and immediate put in a case, and when I changed from one case to another.

 

[Darrell Cunningham]

Personally I cannot visually tell a difference between buff toulouse and american buff, but the previous poster may be correct that the toulouse is slightly heavier weight. I am sure you cannot go wrong with either an american buff or toulouse (buff or grey). If you get a grey goose, then you can have color-sexed babies.

I am very familiar with breeding buff and grey dewlap toulouse, and the resulting offspring from the following combinations:

When you cross buff gander with grey goose, you get buff females and grey males that carry buff gene.

When you cross grey gander with buff gene to buff goose, then you get 50/50 buff and grey babies of each gender.

When you cross grey gander with buff gene to grey goose, you get 25% buff females and all males will be grey with buff gene.

Hello do you have any buff or gray Dewlap eggs for sale ?