Animal broke in

gdgross

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Jun 26, 2010
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Hi all -

This morning I went to move our girls' feed under a roof since there's rain coming today, and sadly discovered that our NH red was dead and mostly eaten, our leghorn totally missing, and our black girl (not sure her breed) alive, but missing a few feathers on her back, and seemed dazed and confused, in addition to not being very excited about the scratch I threw down for her. :(

FWIW, we live in the southern California suburbs, and in 15+ years of keeping chickens, we have never had a predator problem. In fact, I encourage the neighbors' cat to come into the run and hunt rodents. (We don't do chicks, only pullets and larger.) Once, I found him snoozing in the nest boxes :D

I did see a coyote in our neighborhood a few weeks ago, so I suspect they or their kin would seem to be the likely culprit. We're too far away from wild areas to worry about cougars or bears or anything. There's a short run of ~6' block wall fence that the predator likely jumped to get into the run, and the 3 girls had made a habit of sleeping on the apex of the roof of the coop, so they'd likely have been pretty visible and exposed. Coyotes could certainly make the jump, I understand. They could have also hopped on top of our trash cans first and traveled along the wall to the run opening too.

The only other animals I really see around our area are raccoons, skunks, hawks, etc. Doubt it was a hawk since it was at night, or maybe early evening, and I've never seen one around here that I felt was big enough to take a chicken anyway. I doubt a raccoon could have done this much damage.

Anyway, I've never felt the need to secure the run 100%. Until now. I suppose I'll have to, though. I'd like to leave an opening big enough for the cat to get in and keep the run free of rodents, but keep anything bigger out. Given the geometry of our situation, I'm considering an automatic door to close off the more open area of the run, as I'd prefer not to have a bunch of wire fencing visible from the front of the house (and rather not attach anything to our neighbor's garage, which would also be necessary.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Any recs for a decent automatic coop door? I can pipe out electricity if necessary. Probably better and more reliable than running it on solar with a battery. Possible to get a door that's big enough for chickens but too small for coyotes? I imagine those fellers can squeeze down pretty small if they want to...

Thanks
 
I'm sorry that you lost your girls. You have had a fantastic run of luck, it seems. Predators are everywhere It could have been coyotes or raccoons, or an owl. You need to build a proper run that excludes every thing, including the cat. Put your feed away at night and you won't need the cat. Whatever it was, it will be back.
 
I use the Run Chicken automatic coop door and am very satisfied with it after the first year. No Electricity needed, runs on Batteries and you can program it with your cell phone on when it opens and closes. It also has the safety close feature so it will not pin a bird when closing.

Sorry for your loss and hope this helps.
 
Hi all -

This morning I went to move our girls' feed under a roof since there's rain coming today, and sadly discovered that our NH red was dead and mostly eaten, our leghorn totally missing, and our black girl (not sure her breed) alive, but missing a few feathers on her back, and seemed dazed and confused, in addition to not being very excited about the scratch I threw down for her. :(

FWIW, we live in the southern California suburbs, and in 15+ years of keeping chickens, we have never had a predator problem. In fact, I encourage the neighbors' cat to come into the run and hunt rodents. (We don't do chicks, only pullets and larger.) Once, I found him snoozing in the nest boxes :D

I did see a coyote in our neighborhood a few weeks ago, so I suspect they or their kin would seem to be the likely culprit. We're too far away from wild areas to worry about cougars or bears or anything. There's a short run of ~6' block wall fence that the predator likely jumped to get into the run, and the 3 girls had made a habit of sleeping on the apex of the roof of the coop, so they'd likely have been pretty visible and exposed. Coyotes could certainly make the jump, I understand. They could have also hopped on top of our trash cans first and traveled along the wall to the run opening too.

The only other animals I really see around our area are raccoons, skunks, hawks, etc. Doubt it was a hawk since it was at night, or maybe early evening, and I've never seen one around here that I felt was big enough to take a chicken anyway. I doubt a raccoon could have done this much damage.

Anyway, I've never felt the need to secure the run 100%. Until now. I suppose I'll have to, though. I'd like to leave an opening big enough for the cat to get in and keep the run free of rodents, but keep anything bigger out. Given the geometry of our situation, I'm considering an automatic door to close off the more open area of the run, as I'd prefer not to have a bunch of wire fencing visible from the front of the house (and rather not attach anything to our neighbor's garage, which would also be necessary.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Any recs for a decent automatic coop door? I can pipe out electricity if necessary. Probably better and more reliable than running it on solar with a battery. Possible to get a door that's big enough for chickens but too small for coyotes? I imagine those fellers can squeeze down pretty small if they want to...

Thanks
can you post up some pics? In my experience, cats are able and will take out chickens as well. If youre able to keep the cat out and anything else I would do that, chances are if a cat can get in so can other varmints...not sure if you have fishers or weasels but theyll decimate your animals and can squeeze through pretty tight spaces...very sorry for your loss.


Can throw out some ideas if I see some pics.

Also, regarding the rodent problem, do you have any feed that makes it out onto the ground? and how many animals do you have
 
Ah, no can do with the pics. I've already started tearing down and slowly rebuilding the run/coop area. )The one remaining hen ended up dying on her own; she must have been injured in addition to looking dazed and confused. 😥)

That does mean, though, that I don't have to house any more birds until I get this run rebuilt and buttoned down.

I will snap some pics this weekend when I get a chance to work on it, though. There's a few changes I'm making from the old configuration in addition to securing all possible predator entries. Like tearing down the walls of the old shed that was in there and leaving only the roof and pillar supports, to get rid of any rodent hiding places. I'll probably pour some concrete in a few spots for convenience too.

FWIW, I'm 90% sure the culprit was a coyote. We do have raccoons around here, which I have sometimes suspected have stolen eggs or eaten them outright. Have never lost a girl to a predator until now though, in 15+ years of keeping chickens. (Other than my own dogs 🙄) I've never seen ferrets or weasels though. Not sure if they live in southern California or not! And we're too far from woodland areas for any larger predators like cougars or bears. And it was just last week I saw a coyote wandering around our neighborhood. 🤷
 
Could be, but one of them was definitely carried off.

Also saw another coyote this morning on the neighbor's front yard. (maybe the same one?)
I always recommend predator proof coops and runs so predators have to work for their next meal just like us. Once they get a free meal they're hard to get rid of. ( coyotes live a long time and are hard to trap) Sorry for your loss!
 

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